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Car Forum / MINI / September 2003

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Drum brake adjustment screws seized

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Martyn - 03 Sep 2003 14:26 GMT
I'm currently cleaning up some old drum brakes and am struggling to free the
adjustment screws on one of them.  Can anyone tell me whether these have to
work in order to pass the MOT.  I'm currently soaking the screws in WD40 in
the hope of freeing them and have also removed the drum cover to try and
move them from inside so far with no success.

Thanks
Martyn
Shaun - 03 Sep 2003 15:09 GMT
> I'm currently cleaning up some old drum brakes and am struggling to
> free the adjustment screws on one of them.  Can anyone tell me
> whether these have to work in order to pass the MOT.  I'm currently
> soaking the screws in WD40 in the hope of freeing them and have also
> removed the drum cover to try and move them from inside so far with
> no success.

The brakes have to work for the MOT, whether your adjusters are seized or
not is not part of the test.

Shaun.
DaveG - 03 Sep 2003 18:44 GMT
1.You can try direct heat, but be carefull you don't melt things!

2. Even though it seems the long way of doing things, it's often quicker to
remove the whole assembly, and clamp the adjuster in a vice and free it by
moving the assembly.
Afterwards, us copper grease.

3. (The Bodge) Weld a large nut over the adjuster, so a hefty spanner can
shift them! This method is best used only if you've rounded the adjusters
and their useless anyway.

> > I'm currently cleaning up some old drum brakes and am struggling to
> > free the adjustment screws on one of them.  Can anyone tell me
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> Shaun.
Chris Jones - 03 Sep 2003 23:43 GMT
Ick - I hate welding a nut over it.  There's a bloke out here in the
Vancouver area who does that to every Mini he seems to come across, so I've
heard.  Did it to mine, I wasn't happy.

Could try a cordless drill actually ON the adjuster and crank it to the
highest torque setting.  If you can get the drill in there.

Otherwise, whack the adjuster with a hammer to break the seal that any rust
will have formed, and apply gentle heat to the backing plate, not the
adjuster - no need to have it red hot.

Cool the adjuster with a wet cloth before putting yer brake spanner on it.
The adjuster should contract but leave the backing plate nicely warmed up.

Just keep the hot wrench away from the brake lines!

Hope that helps
Chris

> 1.You can try direct heat, but be carefull you don't melt things!
>
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>> Shaun.
Martyn - 04 Sep 2003 15:46 GMT
Thanks to everyone for their help on this, as long as it will pass the MOT
that's the main thing but will certainly give some of the other suggestions
a go to try and move them.

Cheers
Martyn

> Ick - I hate welding a nut over it.  There's a bloke out here in the
> Vancouver area who does that to every Mini he seems to come across, so I've
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> >> Shaun.
k - 04 Sep 2003 23:04 GMT
> Ick - I hate welding a nut over it.  There's a bloke out here in the
> Vancouver area who does that to every Mini he seems to come across, so I've
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> Hope that helps

Hi,
Be careful with the heat!. There is a spring washer under the adjusting
spindle which is intended to keep the adjuster tight. Too much heat will
destroy the spring effect and allow the adjuster to slacken off on it's own.

Keith
Chris Jones - 06 Sep 2003 06:59 GMT
> Hi,
> Be careful with the heat!. There is a spring washer under the
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>
> Keith

Good point Keith.  My personal preference is to fit a new adjuster screw
when undoing a frozen one, so the washer thing wouldn't really matter.  BUT,
if you're stuck for time/budget/being arsed then this is a big thing to
watch for.

Chris
Kevin Hall - 09 Sep 2003 06:04 GMT
Try some real penetrating oil rather than the WD-40,  which isn't really a
good lubricant.  Part of the trouble with those adjusters is the little
square 'eads are easy to round off when the screws are frozen.  Stick an
appropriately sized nut over the square head dingus,  nice and snug,  then
touch it with the wire-feed welder or what-have-you so it is there for good.
Gives you a nice,  solid 6-sided head you can get a ring-wrench on.

KH
> I'm currently cleaning up some old drum brakes and am struggling to free the
> adjustment screws on one of them.  Can anyone tell me whether these have to
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> Thanks
> Martyn
 
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