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Car Forum / MINI / September 2003Army green mini
Hey. I have been inquiring about the price of getting a mini re-sprayed, and I have heard anything from ?300 - ?800. Even the lowest price of that is currently out of the question, so I started reading up on spray-techniques etc. I don't even have a garage to do the painting in, so I hardly think spray-painting (not via cans or pneumatic painting) is going to be an option However: there is a plus-side to it all: I want to paint my car army green with some lettering on - you know, the green colour that doesn't reflect any light, and just looks.. well.. bad, usually. My roof is already white (did it myself, doesn't look too good, but not too bad either), and I reckon I should be able to do the rest of the car in the same way - but in army green, obviously. Is there any way I could do this without stripping off the colour that is already there? The paint job is scratched and ugly, but it does the job of keeping water away from the metal below, something I don't trust my own paintjob to do. also - does anyone know what type of paint the military uses? HJ You could go to an army surplus store and buy a can of nato army green paint and apply it as they do, with a brush. I am going to do a winter run-around so that the pickup can stay salt free in army matt brush on black with some white decals. Cooooool - notice the beardy biker in me breaking out. The Muffin Man > Hey. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > HJ > I am going to do a winter run-around so that the pickup can stay salt free > in army matt brush on black with some white decals. I saw a Lada Niva with the coolest paintjob I have seen in years the other day, hence the inspiration. It was painted army green with a large star on the bonnet and on the doors (where the racing numbers normally are), along with a web address in stencil font. I think I am going to steal that design for my mini - I'll keep my white roof with the red star, but I'll make the rest army green with white decals. But back to the original question: Is it possible to paint the army colour stuff on the current paint without using primer / stripping it down? Cheers, HJ www.photocritic.org (current pics of my mini: http://www.photocritic.org/photo/galleries/showgallery.php?cat=40&thumb=1 ) >> But back to the original question: Is it possible to paint the army colour > stuff on the current paint without using primer / stripping it down? > > Cheers, > > HJ When we do "touch up" or "patch " painting of our landrovers at the TA we dont use any primer, but after years of paint it's quite thick. The paint works great on the aluminium landrovers,but seeing it on the other trucks i'd probably advise that you'd get and rust sorted before applying it ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.kraftysworld.co.uk Beer does not make you fat. It makes you lean- against bars, poles and tables http://2sig.kraftysworld.co.uk > But back to the original question: Is it possible to paint the army colour > stuff on the current paint without using primer / stripping it down? I would think that the stuff would paint straight across the rust, mud and everything. It is like painting underseal!! The Muffin Man > I would think that the stuff would paint straight across the rust, mud and > everything. It is like painting underseal!! Well that is a relief, at least :D I have already sorted out all the rust and other body-type problems, and I'll give it a good clean first - that should do the trick then :) Now all I need to do is to find somewhere in the North-West that will sell me the damn stuff. HJ Dunno why you'd wanna paint it TBH, looks fine to me! Oooo, bit scrappy round the bottom of the drivers door... Well, photos hide a multitude of sins. [snip] > But back to the original question: Is it possible to paint the army > colour stuff on the current paint without using primer / stripping it > down? Dunno why you'd wanna paint it TBH, looks fine to me! Oooo, hang on... bit scrappy round the bottom of the drivers door... Well, photos hide a multitude of sins. I'd give it a good rub down and treat the rust spots firs. And I WOULD give it a blast of primer in those spots too - maybe a zinc primer then some high build or something? I dunno, I'm not a painter really. Do Hammerite do a metal primer? You could try that on the rust spots after they've been treated. There's stuff called Tremclad over here in Canadia that's similar to Hammerite and I've found good results with their metal primer. You'd probably be just as happy with Hammerite. Chris PS Apologies for the Pete Burns moment earlier. Wibble. The Muffin Man twisted the electrons to say: > You could go to an army surplus store and buy a can of nato army green > paint and apply it as they do, with a brush. Back in the days when I had an ex-MoD Land Rover 90 I applied the NATO green with a HomeBase roller-set - probably faster than using a brush? Come to think of it, I've still got most of a tin left and no Land Rover to put it on anymore - if the original poster lives anywhere in the York vicinity I'm sure I could be persuaded to part with it for a truly nominal sum[1]. [1] Subject to cracking the tin open and checking it's still paint, and not something more of interest to Porten Down!  SignatureThese opinions might not even be mine ... Let alone connected with my employer ... ... something like this: http://www.kamps.org/haje/mini/images/2003-09-repaint-design.jpg (photoshop approximation of the design) You aint serious? Well the military paint infa red reflective is around ?30 per gallon, you should be able to do a few minis with that, its a matt satin finish, it can also be sprayed with those cheap airless sprayers you get, Taskers in Wavertree Road, Liverpool have them in stock, ?10, with different size nozzles & spare parts included, plus a 90 degree nozzle ideal for spraying the bonnet & roof, I have used one of these in the street & painted a us army jeep & a landrover with it, its very good for the military stuff, I achieved a perfect finish, I would not recommend this for normal car paint but the matt military stuff looks a treat, you can normaly get the paint from autojumbles or specialist suppliers like jeep parts, http://www.jeeparts.co.uk/default.htm Steve. > ... something like this: > > http://www.kamps.org/haje/mini/images/2003-09-repaint-design.jpg > > (photoshop approximation of the design) > You aint serious? Does it look that bad? ;-) People who know me know that I am the most devaut antimilitarist in the world, which is why I like to wear military insignias and things like that. A mini painted like a military jeep would be the ultimate way of protesting, I believe: Could *you* see a mini in the battlefield? > Well the military paint infa red reflective is around ?30 per gallon, If that is the same as what is called "NATO GREEN IIR" and comes from army surplus stockists, I have seen it for about ?39 for 10 liters, but yes, that is approximately what I was looking for > it can > also be sprayed with those cheap airless sprayers you get, Airless sprayers? You mean a squeezee-bottle? hehe. or is it one of those things that looks like the kind of appliance you use in the garden, with a pump at the top? > Wavertree Road, Liverpool have them in stock, ?10, with different size > nozzles & spare parts included, plus a 90 degree nozzle ideal for spraying > the bonnet & roof, Well, what can I say - that sounds cheap enough. > I would not recommend this for normal car paint > but the matt military stuff looks a treat, The above bit confuses me a bit. You would not recommend it for car paint, but it looks a treat? Call me a pedant, but it sounds like a contradiction to me. Or is it blasphemy to paint minis in anything short of first-rate paints? ;) Thanks for the links and sound advice! HJ > http://www.jeeparts.co.uk/default.htm Dark olive drab matt. What a paint colour name!! The Muffin Man Cool!! The Muffin Man > ... something like this: > > http://www.kamps.org/haje/mini/images/2003-09-repaint-design.jpg > > (photoshop approximation of the design) > Cool!! > > The Muffin Man Hey Muffin Man, Did you see that camouflage mini on the Dales Run, Dash, Seats, etc, even the driver was in camouflage gear, Brilliant, !! Fitzy |
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