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Car Forum / MINI / June 2003

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Fixing Rust ??

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Kaz - 26 Jun 2003 23:00 GMT
My little mimi is beginning to show some rust in the usual places: front under
head lights the a panel right in the door edge of the panel and under the sills
i have had two patches welded (badly) and is a bit rough on the under seal
around the patches flaking what is the best way to fix these i have but a bit
of back to rust thing on the rusty bits what next ??
any advice welcomed
taffy_turner - 27 Jun 2003 18:23 GMT
Well it all depends how bad the rust has taken hold of the panels.  If it's
just surface/bubbles then it should be relatively straight forward to sort
out.  As for the sills, well it depends how bad they are and how good you
want your Mini to look.  I mean you could just get the MOT garage to keep on
adding plates every year, or you could get a complete new sill fitted which
would be the best thing to do.

My Mini had 2 new front wings, A panels and inner and outer sills fitted
around a year ago.  Unbelievably there's some bubbles of rust appearing
around the A panel to wing seam and a patch of paint has fallen off the door
step too (which was also replaced/painted).

The bodyshop has offered to rectify this though, but to prevent it occurring
I guess I need to inject waxoyl or similar rust proofing into the cavities?
I understand my new panels were treated behind, but once it's welded the
weld leaves an untreated area and that can rust and cause problems as in my
case.

So obviously when panels are painted/replaced, they also need rustproofing
from behind.

Taffy

> My little mimi is beginning to show some rust in the usual places: front under
> head lights the a panel right in the door edge of the panel and under the sills
> i have had two patches welded (badly) and is a bit rough on the under seal
> around the patches flaking what is the best way to fix these i have but a bit
> of back to rust thing on the rusty bits what next ??
> any advice welcomed
Dantiri - 29 Jun 2003 01:34 GMT
> Well it all depends how bad the rust has taken hold of the panels.  If it's
> just surface/bubbles then it should be relatively straight forward to sort
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> > of back to rust thing on the rusty bits what next ??
> > any advice welcomed

There is only one way of stopping rust completely for ever... Has
anyone ever heard how they prevent ships from rusting? Well On the
modern ones they use a chemical process called galvanic induction(or
galvanic oxidation, I can't remember :D). This means that on the
inside of the keel they bolt on some pieces of zinc which rust instead
of the iron the ship is made of (I've been told this about by my
brother who studies mechanical engineering at oxford university). The
blocks of zinc must touch bare iron, not painted surfaces. My brother
claims you could do this on a mini and it would require two blocks of
zinc for the front (bonnet exluded), to be bolted to the inside of the
wheel arches, one in each door, two on the inside of each rear wheel
arch and if you want you could also rust-proof the boot lid with
another block. How big the blocks need to be I really don't know, but
I'm sure you can find some useful information on the internet or at
your local library. Anyway you must keep an eye on the zinc blocks
because after they've rusted to a certain extent they need to be
replaced. I don't know if this has ever been done on a car but it
could be interesting to try out!
Greetings

Dantiri
 
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