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Car Forum / MINI / November 2003

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New mini diesel - very stiff reverse gear

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Gary Fozzard - 23 Oct 2003 09:06 GMT
Hi everyone, I am posting this for a friend who has just picked up a new
mini diesel.  He has found that getting reverse gear is very very hard
indeed and being an engineer he has measured the force needed to engage
reverse at 27 pounds.

The problem is his wife finds it impossible to get the car in reverse.

They are currently talking to the dealer who has not found an answer as
yet so I am writing this to see if anyone else has had the same experience?

Any comments would be appreciated

best wishes

Gary
tg - 23 Oct 2003 11:17 GMT
hi,

i guess you will find more help from alt.autos.new-mini newsgroup as this
one is purely for the mini. Hope this helps

> Hi everyone, I am posting this for a friend who has just picked up a new
> mini diesel.  He has found that getting reverse gear is very very hard
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>
> Gary
peakboston - 23 Oct 2003 18:58 GMT
>Hi everyone, I am posting this for a friend who has just picked up a new
>mini diesel.  He has found that getting reverse gear is very very hard
>indeed and being an engineer he has measured the force needed to engage
>reverse at 27 pounds.

You're in the wrong newsgroup, but I'm just trying to imagine how much
force that is.

Sits down lifts 28 pound dumbbell, tries to relate the effort required
to pulling on a gear stick...

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Gary Fozzard - 27 Oct 2003 16:06 GMT
Thanks all, found the right group in the end and was directed to a site
where the new car is in a forum.  A common problem with the 6 speed box
it would appear.  My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!

G

>>Hi everyone, I am posting this for a friend who has just picked up a new
>>mini diesel.  He has found that getting reverse gear is very very hard
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> Sits down lifts 28 pound dumbbell, tries to relate the effort required
> to pulling on a gear stick...
Graham - 27 Oct 2003 17:28 GMT
> My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
> permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!

Tell your engineer friend that he's a "bloody engineer"!
(from another bloody engineer)

8-)
The Muffin Man - 27 Oct 2003 17:40 GMT
Engineers are great, they can add a weight to something and make it easier
to lift ;)

The Muffin Man
Not a "bloody engineer"

> > My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
> > permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!
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>
> 8-)
-AD- - 28 Oct 2003 10:01 GMT
And Graham was sitting next to Elvis in the spaceship, which I thought was
kinda strange, but then they turned to me and said:

> > My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
> > permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!
>
> Tell your engineer friend that he's a "bloody engineer"!
> (from another bloody engineer)

"Slide rule in one hand, and a bloody big hammer in the other..."

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Graham - 28 Oct 2003 12:05 GMT
> > > My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
> > > permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!

> And Graham was sitting next to Elvis in the spaceship, which I thought was
> kinda strange, but then they turned to me and said:
> > Tell your engineer friend that he's a "bloody engineer"!
> > (from another bloody engineer)

> "Slide rule in one hand, and a bloody big hammer in the other..."

Curiously, I'm about 10 years too young to have ever had to learn to use
a slide rule. Now the really sobering thought is that that puts the
youngest of the slide rule generation just 10 to 15 years from
retirement. They'll be extinct in the not too distant future.
Fitzy - 28 Oct 2003 22:03 GMT
> > > > My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
> > > > permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!
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> youngest of the slide rule generation just 10 to 15 years from
> retirement. They'll be extinct in the not too distant future.
..................................
Getting back to the problem of    STIFF gear,
reduce the amount of Viagra in the gearbox and put it in to the shock's
instead     :-)
Fitzy
ops - 29 Oct 2003 15:13 GMT
>>>>>My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
>>>>>permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!
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> instead     :-)
> Fitzy

I use low fat Viagra :)

r
tim_lis - 29 Oct 2003 11:04 GMT
speak for yourself here in the colonies we still use a slide ruler, because
we are so behind you civilised countries like the UK that we havn't invented
the calculator yet

> > > > My engineer friend has made a counter weight to fasten
> > > > permanently to the gear stick to reduce force needed by 4 pounds!
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> youngest of the slide rule generation just 10 to 15 years from
> retirement. They'll be extinct in the not too distant future.
Fitzy - 29 Oct 2003 15:52 GMT
Hi Tim,
Your back ?
Thought you where moveing house and would be off line for a while,

Fitzy

> speak for yourself here in the colonies we still use a slide ruler, because
> we are so behind you civilised countries like the UK that we havn't invented
> the calculator yet
Steve - 29 Oct 2003 17:56 GMT
Yeah.... bought any sheep yet Tim? Now if that doesn't start off a series of
comments about New Zealand and it's occupants, I don't know what will!
If you've got 15 acres, you'll need something to save you cutting the grass.

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> Hi Tim,
> Your back ?
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> invented
> > the calculator yet
tim_lis - 30 Oct 2003 22:02 GMT
i think the correct reply would be BAAAAAAAA baby do it to me....anyway I
hate sheep I have 12 Herefords, 2 pigs and 12 chickens at the moment.

> Yeah.... bought any sheep yet Tim? Now if that doesn't start off a series of
> comments about New Zealand and it's occupants, I don't know what will!
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > invented
> > > the calculator yet
tim_lis - 30 Oct 2003 22:00 GMT
been quiet latley, did my self some major damage to my shoulder and upper
arm and using the comp has been a strugle. Looks like they'll need to open
me up and re-attach the tendons in my radial cuff (what ever that is) to my
colar bone. I streched them beyond there normal reach and they have snapped
bak into place...unfortunatly the wrong place and they have become lodged in
my ball and socket joint of the shoulder....so in much pain

> Hi Tim,
> Your back ?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> invented
> > the calculator yet
Makka - 06 Nov 2003 13:50 GMT
tim i feel for you i went through that for two years .....
actully re injurd myself :((
and no there wont be any kiwi sheep jokes from me :))
although
makka
> been quiet latley, did my self some major damage to my shoulder and upper
> arm and using the comp has been a strugle. Looks like they'll need to open
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> > invented
> > > the calculator yet
Just Another Idiot - 30 Oct 2003 09:36 GMT
Hi Tim,

Hi Tim,
What was the email address of the wrecker over there? (remember me asking
about Montego parts in NZ)
I lost it before I could use it!

Michael (in aus)

> speak for yourself here in the colonies we still use a slide ruler, because
> we are so behind you civilised countries like the UK that we havn't invented
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> > youngest of the slide rule generation just 10 to 15 years from
> > retirement. They'll be extinct in the not too distant future.
tim_lis - 30 Oct 2003 22:04 GMT
that would be Lauire at Axcell Automotive

minispecialist@xtra.co.nz

> Hi Tim,
>
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> > > youngest of the slide rule generation just 10 to 15 years from
> > > retirement. They'll be extinct in the not too distant future.
Just Another Idiot - 31 Oct 2003 12:30 GMT
That's the one!
Thanks!

Michael.

> that would be Lauire at Axcell Automotive
>
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> > > > youngest of the slide rule generation just 10 to 15 years from
> > > > retirement. They'll be extinct in the not too distant future.
Graham - 30 Oct 2003 13:59 GMT
pssst tim....

.au is just to the west of Auckland and I'm a New Zealand citizen.

Oh, and over here we have computers so small they fit on your desk!

> speak for yourself here in the colonies we still use a slide ruler, because
> we are so behind you civilised countries like the UK that we havn't invented
> the calculator yet
>
> "Graham" <zebedee@alphalink.com.au> wrote...
 
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