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Car Forum / MINI / October 2003

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mini in car crash, estimates for settlement from insurance?

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Chris Long - 21 Oct 2003 11:59 GMT
Unfortunately I was in a crash in my beloved mini cooper last night,
although I didn't see the extent of the damage as I was being hauled out by
paramedics (it's ok, only whiplash and a bad knee) I had a horrible gut
feeling the car may be written off.

Anyone any ideas what price you could get for a 1998 (R reg) mini cooper
(tahiti blue) with 75000 on the clock. I've seen similar cars with slightly
less mileage going for around ?5000, reckon I could get ?4,000 for it? It
has a good service record (only lapsed recently) and I have owned it from
new.

The damage to the front of the car was extensive. Bulkhead buckled by
drivers feet, although the window was still in place and the dash more or
less straight. Drivers door would open properly cos of damage to the drivers
side wing but the passenger side seems fine. Basically the front end of the
car needs to be rebuilt. Any idea how much this would cost? because I really
don;t want to scrap it, besides, for parts alone the back end of the car is
worth money.

Any help greatly appreciated

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Chris Long
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Rocky - 21 Oct 2003 12:41 GMT
hi m8 sorry to hear about your crash, minis dont take a bump very well do
they.  You said "Bulkhead buckled by drivers feet", really they cant/should
not fix that So its a new shell plus paitnig,etc or write off. Most
insuracne companys will just write it off and give you "market value" for it
sadly
captain scarlett - 21 Oct 2003 14:38 GMT
>hi m8 sorry to hear about your crash, minis dont take a bump very well do
>they.  You said "Bulkhead buckled by drivers feet", really they cant/should
>not fix that So its a new shell plus paitnig,etc or write off. Most
>insuracne companys will just write it off and give you "market value" for it
>sadly

Might give you a starting point
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2437092119&category=38708
Chris Long - 21 Oct 2003 14:57 GMT
hmmm, thanks for the help

its what i thought really. Although I'll still wait it out and see how much
they offer and how much they will deduct if I take the wreck as well. It may
be possible to repair if I add some more money.

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> hi m8 sorry to hear about your crash, minis dont take a bump very well do
> they.  You said "Bulkhead buckled by drivers feet", really they cant/should
> not fix that So its a new shell plus paitnig,etc or write off. Most
> insuracne companys will just write it off and give you "market value" for it
> sadly
Rocky - 21 Oct 2003 15:02 GMT
Good luck with it at then m8
Steve68s - 25 Oct 2003 00:16 GMT
Pressed the button before I had finished typing, the insurance will have to
give you the market value, so if you prove to them that is going to cost
?2000 more than they are offering you to get your mini, they will have to up
the payout, provide them with say pc scans of minis out of the back of mini
world as evidence, look for the most expensive ones too,

Steve.
Graham - 21 Oct 2003 15:04 GMT
> Anyone any ideas what price you could get for a 1998 (R reg) mini cooper
> (tahiti blue) with 75000 on the clock. I've seen similar cars with slightly
> less mileage going for around £5000, reckon I could get £4,000 for it? It
> has a good service record (only lapsed recently) and I have owned it from
> new.

If you don't have an agreed value comprehensive policy, you'll get
offered "market value"; then it's up to you to argue if you don't like
it.

> The damage to the front of the car was extensive. Bulkhead buckled by
> drivers feet, ... Basically the front end of the car needs to be rebuilt.
> Any idea how much this would cost?

You're describing a write off.

> because I really don;t want to scrap it,

If this was next month and you had your insurance money in your hand and
you were out looking for another Mini the same to buy...  

If you found your Mini in a car yard somewhere, repaired, and the price
matched your payout....

Ask yourself, would you really buy it, knowing it had been in such a
severe accident?

"Don't be daft!" I hear you say....

> besides, for parts alone the back end of the car is worth money.

See how much the insurance company wants for the write off if you really
want the parts. After they pay you out, the wreck would normally be
auctioned, but they may be willing to sell it direct to you or to tell
you when and where it will be auctioned.

But only buy it if the parts really are worth the price; don't waste
your money on a write off because you have an emotional attachment to
the car it once was.
Rocky - 21 Oct 2003 15:07 GMT
agians some really good points. In the end cars are "just tin boxes" was my
grandad would say.....
Steve - 21 Oct 2003 17:12 GMT
> If you don't have an agreed value comprehensive policy, you'll get
> offered "market value"; then it's up to you to argue if you don't like
> it.

And to expand on this important point, don't *ever* accept the first offer
from the insurance company. Tell them the car is worth more and they will
make a better offer...... every time. You will have to accept the second
offer as they are unlikely to haggle any further. But I cannot stress
enough, don't accept the initial offer.

Insurance companies, like any other industry, are there to make money. For
this reason they will always offer the lowest figure they think they can get
away with. It is common for people just to take what they are offered
because they don't feel they can negotiate with a big company.

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Steve
steve@dsnclassics.co.uk
www.dsnclassics.co.uk

David Betts - 22 Oct 2003 08:01 GMT
>And to expand on this important point, don't *ever* accept the first offer
>from the insurance company. Tell them the car is worth more and they will
>make a better offer...... every time. You will have to accept the second
>offer as they are unlikely to haggle any further. But I cannot stress
>enough, don't accept the initial offer.

Try and produce some evidence. A letter from an authoritative source -
the Mini specialist who does your servicing; an officer of the Mini
club to which you belong; even your local Rover dealer - stating that
the car was in exceptional condition and worth a premium price of GBPX
prior to the crash will do. Also pictures if you have them.

Don't forget also that you are talking about replacement value here.
Try and find examples of similar cars in the mags. which reflect the
price you are trying to achieve.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334
Steve68s - 25 Oct 2003 00:11 GMT
Just one thing to add, just ask for enough money to buy another one, same
age & condition, when they make you the offer which will be negotiable tell
them they are being deceptive, produce a list of similar cars from the adds
in the back of mini world magazine,

> >And to expand on this important point, don't *ever* accept the first offer
> >from the insurance company. Tell them the car is worth more and they will
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> The Mini Gallery:
> http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334
Chris Long - 23 Oct 2003 10:07 GMT
thanks for the help people, i'm just waiting to hear from the garage. The
car was in excellent condition and I've found other examples of R reg
coopers with 65000 (mine had 75000) on the clock going for close to ?5000 So
I think I'll try for ?4500 and see what happens. I had a minor repair fixed
earlier this year with a rover dealer I wonder if they could vouch for the
condition of the car. As for photos for evidence I only have a photo from 18
months ago. Well, lets see what happens

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Chris Long
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> Unfortunately I was in a crash in my beloved mini cooper last night,
> although I didn't see the extent of the damage as I was being hauled out by
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