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Car Forum / MINI / January 2004

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Jonathan - 21 Jan 2004 00:01 GMT
I've got my heart set on a 90s Cooper of sorts. There are the usual things
like checking under the carpets to see the condition of the floor, seeing
if the panels have been replaced, checking the provinence of the car, MoT
history, service history, any recent work etc...  Anything I should look
out for?
Steve - 21 Jan 2004 09:41 GMT
> I've got my heart set on a 90s Cooper of sorts. There are the usual things
> like checking under the carpets to see the condition of the floor, seeing
> if the panels have been replaced, checking the provinence of the car, MoT
> history, service history, any recent work etc...  Anything I should look
> out for?

Rust, rust and more rust!
90's Minis are much more prone to corrosion than earlier cars.
Check places like:
The scuttle between the wipers. The rot starts under the screen seal.
Under the rear side windows.
Tops of the front screen pillars.
Above the fresh air vents under each wing.
Front panel around the subframe mounts.
Plus all the usual Mini rot spots.

Mechanical parts are not really a problem. They are mostly cheap and easy to
repair.
The carb cars are probably the most responsive to drive. My experience of
Spi cars is that they are quite lacking in 'get up and go'. This was largely
sorted with the Mpi cars. But a good carb car will out perform either.
Injection cars are obviously more complicated and if electrics fail it is
much more difficult to diagnose the problem.

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Steve
steve@dsnclassics.co.uk
www.dsnclassics.co.uk

Matt Cave - 21 Jan 2004 12:02 GMT
There's a very thorough (but easy to follow) buyers guide on
www.minifinity.com.

It's under Resources, and it's called The Ultimate Buyers Guide.

Matt

> I've got my heart set on a 90s Cooper of sorts. There are the usual things
> like checking under the carpets to see the condition of the floor, seeing
> if the panels have been replaced, checking the provinence of the car, MoT
> history, service history, any recent work etc...  Anything I should look
> out for?
minichicago - 21 Jan 2004 15:27 GMT
I looked on this site and noticed it recommended 10-40 weight oil for winter
driving.  I thought that this was too thin for the gear box.  Any thoughts?

> There's a very thorough (but easy to follow) buyers guide on
> www.minifinity.com.
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>> history, service history, any recent work etc...  Anything I should look
>> out for?
fraggy - 21 Jan 2004 20:26 GMT
hiya
if you want to see an example of a 92 cooper rust problems go look at my
site.
www.coopermini.co.uk

> I've got my heart set on a 90s Cooper of sorts. There are the usual things
> like checking under the carpets to see the condition of the floor, seeing
> if the panels have been replaced, checking the provinence of the car, MoT
> history, service history, any recent work etc...  Anything I should look
> out for?
Paul - 23 Jan 2004 10:33 GMT
> hiya
>  if you want to see an example of a 92 cooper rust problems go look at my
> site.
> www.coopermini.co.uk

Checked it out. OUCH! Did they take the body to trip to the beach
before they painted it or where they just so busy making minis they
sweated all over the raw body. Its times like these I love living in
OZ my 78 clubie is rusty but its not THAT bad!

All the best hope you got it all!
Graham - 23 Jan 2004 14:15 GMT
> >  if you want to see an example of a 92 cooper rust problems go look at my
> > site.
> > www.coopermini.co.uk

> Checked it out. OUCH! Did they take the body to trip to the beach
> before they painted it or where they just so busy making minis they
> sweated all over the raw body. Its times like these I love living in
> OZ my 78 clubie is rusty but its not THAT bad!

Paul, keep an eye out for seriously rusty Mini Mokes. Every now and then
you'll see one which makes fraggy's pics look minor. Then check the rego
label - it will be a 1977 Moke.

Seemingly minor changes to the metal pretreatment can make enormous
differences to long term corrosion resistance.

Apparently in 1977 Leyland moved Moke production and changed their metal
treatments. Then in 1978 they saw the error of their ways and went back
to the old scheme, before going to galvanised panels in late 1978.
Spectacularly rusty Mokes are almost inevitably 1977, and yet the few
non galvanised Mokes from 1978 are no worse than earlier Mokes.
Steve - 23 Jan 2004 16:44 GMT
> Paul, keep an eye out for seriously rusty Mini Mokes. Every now and then
> you'll see one which makes fraggy's pics look minor. Then check the rego
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> Spectacularly rusty Mokes are almost inevitably 1977, and yet the few
> non galvanised Mokes from 1978 are no worse than earlier Mokes.

Some years ago, I was out looking at a used set of 'S' brakes that weren't
'S' brakes at all (different story!) when I saw a very early Moke in this
chaps garden. It had broken its back but was still in remarkable shape
considering it was in the hedge and near the coast! We established that it
was probably a 64 example. It was sat next to a similar condition 1961
Pickup complete with full length rear bumper. Again it was surprising how
little rust it had but every panel was damaged/vandalised in some way.
Shame. They just don't make 'em like they used to (spoken in 'old codger'
voice!).

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Rgds
Steve
steve@dsnclassics.co.uk
www.dsnclassics.co.uk

The Muffin Man - 24 Jan 2004 10:36 GMT
There was a full length pickup bumper on ebay a few months back.  It went
for nearly 200 pounds!!  And I thought the corner bumpers I bought were bad
at 80ish!!

The Muffin Man

> > Paul, keep an eye out for seriously rusty Mini Mokes. Every now and then
> > you'll see one which makes fraggy's pics look minor. Then check the rego
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> steve@dsnclassics.co.uk
> www.dsnclassics.co.uk
 
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