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Car Forum / MINI / January 2004

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Matt Cullum - 14 Jan 2004 19:19 GMT
I'm off to pick up a rusty (but complete) hornet on saturday Its a MK3 1969
model and has
been garaged for the last 10years. I'm curious as to what is different on
the hornet body panel
wise over a mini.

The obvious bits are the rear wings/boot, front panel. But what about doors?
I know the hinge
arrangement is different (or so I have been told) but is that transeferable
over to a standard
door? Front wings look the same.

Any good resources out there on the 'net to help me?

         Thanks in advance for any help!

                         Matt

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Jono Barspeed - 15 Jan 2004 00:28 GMT
Doors on a hornet can be confusing!
a 1969 hornet has internal hinges and predate the mk3 and clubman by a few
years.
You will require early mk3 / clubman doors to fit, later ones will require a
bit of modification to fit, as the internal hinges and check strap are
located differantly. I have tried to make it fit with out cutting or welding
without success.
Front panels are differant but you can use a new std mini one and use parts
of the original to modify the new one.
If you can them, estate 1/4 panels can be used to repair the hornet 1/4
panel were it meets the rear valance.

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> I'm off to pick up a rusty (but complete) hornet on saturday Its a MK3 1969
> model and has
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>                           Matt
Steve - 17 Jan 2004 10:45 GMT
> You will require early mk3 / clubman doors to fit, later ones will require a
> bit of modification to fit, as the internal hinges and check strap are
> located differantly. I have tried to make it fit with out cutting or welding
> without success.

I think you've got that a bit wrong, Jono. Early Mk3 Elf/Hornets had smaller
hinges to the later ones which used the same hinges as the Mk3 Minis. All
the Mk3 Elf/Hornets used a different catch arrangement to the Mk3 Minis. The
window winder mechanism was slightly different in that it had a square shaft
for the handle rather than a hexagonal one.
We had to look into this not too long ago for someone when we had a pair of
used doors off an Elf for him. One of them had different hinges to the
other!

> If you can them, estate 1/4 panels can be used to repair the hornet 1/4
> panel were it meets the rear valance.

Hey, thats a good idea. Never thought of that one!

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Steve
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Steve - 17 Jan 2004 10:47 GMT
> I'm off to pick up a rusty (but complete) hornet on saturday Its a MK3 1969
> model and has
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>                           Matt

Make sure that all the chrome is there (bumpers, over riders, etc). Most of
the external trim is virtually impossible to obtain. And when it does turn
up it can be serious money.

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Steve
steve@dsnclassics.co.uk
www.dsnclassics.co.uk

Matt Cullum - 17 Jan 2004 19:01 GMT
Thanks to all for the advice, although I'm still more then a little unclear
as to
the differences between them,

I picked it up today (hurrah!), and for money I think I've got a bargain.

Hector the Hornet is home.

Its a late mkIII 1969 (1st of august!) car, so I suspect it gots to be one
of the
last made? All the chrome is there (except the "mk" from the mk III on the
back)
although the rear overriders have rotted away at the bottoms BIG TIME, but
it
came with a NEW pair in one of the boxs of spares.

All the leather is there although some of the seats have got the stitching
giving way,
theres rot in most places bottoms of doors, A panels front wings being the
worst
bit I have seen ALOT worse. Oh rear and front valances have rotted away, in
a box of spares I have got the rear corners panels (new) though

Its been treated to a truly horrid respray a few years ago with no prep work
that I
can see, so its falling off revealing much better orginal white colour
underneath in
one spot. came with a few boxs of spares. All in all I think I can
say its 50quid well spent ;^ ) Even the wife said it wasn't as bad as she
was expecting
(this is massive praise!)

Photos on my website soon.

     Matt "felling kinda lucky" C

http://www.matscar.co.uk

> > I'm off to pick up a rusty (but complete) hornet on saturday Its a MK3
> 1969
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> the external trim is virtually impossible to obtain. And when it does turn
> up it can be serious money.
The Muffin Man - 17 Jan 2004 21:44 GMT
If you were to chop it into tiny bits and offer them on ebay I bet you would
get much more than the 50 quid you paid ;)

Good find!!  Keep us updated.  I have always been interested in seeing the
restoration of something unusual - hence the pickup.  Give us some photos of
a 50quid hornet.

Did you get the log book?  That in itself has to be worth the cash and then
some!!

The Muffin Man

> Thanks to all for the advice, although I'm still more then a little unclear
> as to
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> > www.dsnclassics.co.uk
minichicago - 17 Jan 2004 22:51 GMT
MiniChicago wrote:1/17/04 1:01 PM
mattscar.co.uk works better

> Thanks to all for the advice, although I'm still more then a little unclear
> as to
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>> the external trim is virtually impossible to obtain. And when it does turn
>> up it can be serious money.
Matt Cullum - 18 Jan 2004 22:08 GMT
Ooops www.mattscar.co.uk!

It has now been updated with a few photos and a few words on the car, stuff
not yet mentioned it
that I has spent the afternoon trying to start him!

Clutch has seized (surprise surprise) he turns over well and petrol is
getting to the
carb, no vrooom though. After changing the condensor I've got strong spark
at the points but its all a bit feeble at the plug and he won't fire.

50psi oil pressure on the starter motor is a good sign though and once I've
bought
a new cap/rotor arm/leads he should go!

I have found I'm missing two hornet hub caps though which is a shame, there
some
pretty nasty rot in places in the floor but no more then I was expecting.

                   Matt

> MiniChicago wrote:1/17/04 1:01 PM
> mattscar.co.uk works better
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> >> the external trim is virtually impossible to obtain. And when it does turn
> >> up it can be serious money.
me - 19 Jan 2004 01:36 GMT
Two Questions

1.  Why is it a HE?

2.  Interesting door handles was this something that was standard on
english cars?

rm

> Ooops www.mattscar.co.uk!
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>>>>up it can be serious money.
Shaun - 19 Jan 2004 09:16 GMT
Matt,

As always you are one jammy son of a .... and once again have blagged a
decent bargain for your ?50, and if the Mrs likes it you can't fail!

>After changing the condensor I've got strong spark at the points

Err Matt, the condensor is supposed to *stop* the spark at the points...

Shaun.
The Muffin Man - 19 Jan 2004 21:37 GMT
Excellent!!

Worth 50 of anyone's ;)

The Muffin Man

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Matt Cullum - 19 Jan 2004 22:23 GMT
Y'see shaun someones happy for me ;^ )

       Matt

http://www.mattscar.co.uk

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