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Passed my driving test in my mini!!

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Will - 12 Jan 2004 12:07 GMT
Hi Everyone

Just wanted to say a big thanks for your all your advice about a month
ago regarding whether to take my test in my own mini or to go through
a driving school. The test went really well, it is so much easier when
you're comfortable with the car, and she drove beautifully.

I'm not sure if anyone has any advice on this, but I was considering
taking out some breakdown cover. AA/ RAC/ Green Flag are the obvious
ones, but does anyone have any recommendations. I don't use it to
commute- more for evenings and weekends.

Looking forward to many years of mini driving!

Will
Steve - 12 Jan 2004 13:47 GMT
> Hi Everyone
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> Will

Hey Will

Firstly, congratulations on your passing into the world of solo motoring!

Many insurance companies offer breakdown cover as an incentive to buy their
product. It may be worth looking at that option depending on when your
insurance is due.

There isn't much to go wrong with a well maintained Mini though. Most 'call
outs' are for electrical faults, so if you give the car a full electrical
service every year, you shouldn't have too much trouble. It never ceases to
amaze me how many customers look at a set of points after a year and decide
to put them back in! For all the cost, it is better just to throw a set of
new ignition parts at it every year. I usually suggest to do this in October
or November, just before the bad time of year (northern hemisphere......
before anyone comments from down under!). Most other failures can be treated
with a good kick and off it goes again!

You should carry a basic tool kit and a few spares (fan belt, bulbs, wire
coat hanger.... yes seriously, you'ld be amazed how many things you can fix
temporarily with this!).

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Will - 12 Jan 2004 22:52 GMT
>> Hi Everyone
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> fix
> temporarily with this!).

Thanks Steve. I actually "broke down" on Sunday on my way home from my
parents' where I've been leaving the car in Surrey.

There was the biggest shower I've ever seen-for 2 minutes it really rained/
hailed. Unfortunately I was trying to navigate the North Circular at the
time (one of the most congested roads in London for anyone unfamiliar), I
had just left it to queue to cross it again (a pretty badly designed
junction) and she started to splutter. As soon as I got to the front of the
queue she died completely. Needless to say I incurred some considerable
embarrassment (sp?) sitting there with my hazard lights on for ten minutes
or so!

Anyway, I decided that the "L" plate I thought I had removed from the grill
for good on Friday might have actually been doing a worthwhile job of
protectiong the distributer/ HT leads from the elements, so I'm going to
look into a replacement. Ideas I've picked up from here include an ice
cream tub lid mounted on the inside or a washing-up glove with the leads
threaded through the cut-off fingers. I'll experiment anyway.

As far as breakdown cover goes in case anyone in the UK is interested in my
research-the cheapest no-frills (roadside assistance & tow to nearest
garage within 10 miles if unable to fix within 1 hour, >.25 miles from
home) is the RAC at £36. This surprised me as I anticipated them to be the
most expensive along with the AA. In terms of mid-level cover (includes
towing to final destination) Britannia do this for just under £80. Home
start is more still, and it gets complicated from here up, including
overnight accom and European cover if you're really feeling rich.

I like your reasoning though Steve-electrics are probably the main issue,
and they are the easiest to look after/ dry out (not meaning to tempt fate
though!). I'll probably go for the £36 job for my mother's peace of mind
(which is priceless of course <g>) but thanks for the tips.

Will

PS does anyone know of a North London/ London mini club out there?

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The Muffin Man - 12 Jan 2004 23:45 GMT
Congrats

BTW, I have found that the most valuable part of AA cover (or whoever) is
the tow you there bit.  When you do something silly like smash your diff pin
you wont get a local garage within 10 miles fixing it!!

Don't say "It'll never happen to me" as it does - as I found out ;)  If you
blow a core plug, lose your fuel pump, try fixing your own clutch and find
that a year later you have no drive etc etc etc (all things that have
happened to me or people I know in the last year - mine was the bust diff ;)
they will get you to your favourite garage or home.

By way of example, I was pillion on a motorbike when we smashed lots of
spokes in the rear wheel on a service station speed bump with no warning
markings or signs in the pouring rain.  Green flag took us all the way from
Cambridge to Newcastle no questions asked ;)

The Muffin Man

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Steve - 13 Jan 2004 12:53 GMT
> Don't say "It'll never happen to me" as it does - as I found out ;)  If you
> blow a core plug, lose your fuel pump,

You must be more careful where you put it then :-) Hope you found it
quickly!

> By way of example, I was pillion on a motorbike when we smashed lots of
> spokes in the rear wheel on a service station speed bump with no warning
> markings or signs in the pouring rain.  Green flag took us all the way from
> Cambridge to Newcastle no questions asked ;)

Where's your sense of adventure, Muffin Man?! No, you are right of course.
Peace of mind is worth a few quid each year.

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The Muffin Man - 13 Jan 2004 18:03 GMT
If I didn't have a sense of adventure I wouldn't drive a 1970 pickup as my
daily driver ;)

The Muffin Man

> Where's your sense of adventure, Muffin Man?! No, you are right of course.
> Peace of mind is worth a few quid each year.
Steve - 17 Jan 2004 10:19 GMT
> If I didn't have a sense of adventure I wouldn't drive a 1970 pickup as my
> daily driver ;)
>
> The Muffin Man

lol... point taken!

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Matt Cave - 13 Jan 2004 09:06 GMT
> PS does anyone know of a North London/ London mini club out there?

Hi Will,
          If you've got an internet connection (which clearly you have!)
then you could check out www.minifinity.com. It's an international online
club, but they have lots of meets all over the UK, including London. Plus
it's free!

Matt
Steve - 13 Jan 2004 12:49 GMT
> There was the biggest shower I've ever seen-for 2 minutes it really rained/
> hailed. Unfortunately I was trying to navigate the North Circular at the
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> embarrassment (sp?) sitting there with my hazard lights on for ten minutes
> or so!

Ah yes! I had to rescue a friend who blew up a clutch in his MG Midget on
Mill Hill roundabout (that's the North Circular, isn't it?) some years ago.
He just about managed to coast around and into a petrol station. You can
imagine the blowing of horns and gesticulation as he cruised round at 5mph!

> Anyway, I decided that the "L" plate I thought I had removed from the grill
> for good on Friday might have actually been doing a worthwhile job of
> protectiong the distributer/ HT leads from the elements, so I'm going to
> look into a replacement. Ideas I've picked up from here include an ice
> cream tub lid mounted on the inside or a washing-up glove with the leads
> threaded through the cut-off fingers. I'll experiment anyway.

The final evolution from Rover seems to work OK. About ?25 for the kit. Part
number BHM1675 from your local main dealer or Mini parts suppliers ;-)

> I like your reasoning though Steve-electrics are probably the main issue,
> and they are the easiest to look after/ dry out (not meaning to tempt fate
> though!). I'll probably go for the ?36 job for my mother's peace of mind
> (which is priceless of course <g>) but thanks for the tips.

Never had breakdown cover on any of my old cars. We did get cover with a
brand new SEAT which proptly broke down twice in two weeks when only 6
months old. In fact, I had to tow it home with my 20 year old Land Rover
(not covered!) on one occasion because it was too close to home for Green
Flag to come out!!

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Will - 13 Jan 2004 22:29 GMT
> Ah yes! I had to rescue a friend who blew up a clutch in his MG Midget on
> Mill Hill roundabout (that's the North Circular, isn't it?) some years
> ago.

That's roughly the area.

> He just about managed to coast around and into a petrol station. You can
> imagine the blowing of horns and gesticulation as he cruised round at
> 5mph!

I know the feeling. What you soon realise though is that you stick out
amongst the other motorists purely because you are in the minority of
actually having gone to the trouble of gaining a driving licence and picked
up some etiquette/ consideration for other road users along the way. The
number of blatantly illegal drivers around here is frightening.

> The final evolution from Rover seems to work OK. About £25 for the kit.
> Part
> number BHM1675 from your local main dealer or Mini parts suppliers ;-)

Thanks Steve, a gracious offer, although having just paid over £600 for
third party F&T insurance, I think I'll try and get by on a home made
jobbie first!

> Never had breakdown cover on any of my old cars. We did get cover with a
> brand new SEAT which proptly broke down twice in two weeks when only 6
> months old. In fact, I had to tow it home with my 20 year old Land Rover
> (not covered!) on one occasion because it was too close to home for Green
> Flag to come out!!

I'm still undecided about this. I'm thinking of the adding final
destination option actually just for the hassle factor of being so far from
family that could help (no local friends with Land Rovers (or even jump
leads for that matter!)). I'd need to get the car back to Surrey to work on
her properly.

Thanks for everyones input.

Will

PS is anyone here a member of London and Surrey Mini Owners Club? Any
feedback? They seem to only meet south of London...

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KilroyCG - 15 Jan 2004 12:32 GMT
Hey Will - congrats on passing the test.

Whichever rescue option you decide to subscribe to, make sure you
check out the catches: My wife asked if I could add her to my AA cover
last year (roadside/relay/home start). I was advised I'd need "Family
Cover" at something like £180. After five call-outs on both the Min
and her Freelander over the course of the year, we were sent a nice
letter from the AA saying that under Family membership we'd have one
more callout before we got charged £40-odd for the callout plus any
recovery charges thereafter!! After a bit of checking on their
website, I've also noticed that we could have had "Joint Membership"
at a saving of about £30 (if I remember rightly)!!

As it is, my membership is now up for renewal and I'm shopping around
for alternatives as I've been a bit hacked off at the AA at their
attitude this last year - especially as I've probably only called them
out about 10 times since 1989!!!

Cheers,
Colin

> > Ah yes! I had to rescue a friend who blew up a clutch in his MG Midget on
> > Mill Hill roundabout (that's the North Circular, isn't it?) some years
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> PS is anyone here a member of London and Surrey Mini Owners Club? Any
> feedback? They seem to only meet south of London...
Fitzy - 16 Jan 2004 22:01 GMT
Colin, !!
I would hazard a guess ,,
and say the Freelander has had more breakdowns than the mini,
Oh, yes,
my wife passed her test in a mini back in 1970,,,
and what a gorgeous site she was :-)
wish I still had the mini though

Fitzy
> Hey Will - congrats on passing the test.
>
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> >
> > > The final evolution from Rover seems to work OK. About ?25 for the
kit.
> > > Part
> > > number BHM1675 from your local main dealer or Mini parts suppliers ;-)
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> > PS is anyone here a member of London and Surrey Mini Owners Club? Any
> > feedback? They seem to only meet south of London...
Graham - 17 Jan 2004 03:04 GMT
> my wife passed her test in a mini back in 1970,,,
> and what a gorgeous site she was :-)
> wish I still had the mini though

You've still got the wife and I'm sure she's just as gorgeous in another
Mini!
Fitzy - 18 Jan 2004 23:49 GMT
> > my wife passed her test in a mini back in 1970,,,
> > and what a gorgeous site she was :-)
> > wish I still had the mini though
>
> You've still got the wife and I'm sure she's just as gorgeous in another
> Mini!

Yep,,
and  Yep,,   ;-)
Fitzy
Steve - 17 Jan 2004 10:24 GMT
> Hey Will - congrats on passing the test.
>
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> Cheers,
> Colin

I think this is quite common practice in the small print. The Green Flag
cover only allowed a few call outs before starting to charge. However, on a
car that is still under warranty you can often get the dealer to pay for it.
Not relevant to many 'proper' Minis, I know!

Ah... the 1800 K series..... what a wonderful beastie. Or is the Freelander
a diesel?

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KilroyCG - 19 Jan 2004 09:06 GMT
It's the 2 litre diesel in the Landi, and it's actually been the
better-behaved of the two cars! The Min died twice on my wife when she
was out with our daughter, so a call to the man in yellow was the only
option available to her, and it died on me once when the rotor arm
failed whilst out in the sticks (and yes I always carry a spare
now!!).

When I called the AA to enquire about the "one more call and your
overdraft is ours" attitude, the nice lady in customer services didn't
seem bothered about how little I'd called them out in 14 years, or
about the frequent 1 hour plus waits for them to arrive (including a
marathon five and a half hour wait on the A3), or about them sending a
tow truck for my Porsche 944 when I'd told them it couldn't be towed,
or about the driver who finally shuttled it from Newcastle to Solihull
who basically spent the first hour and a half F-ing and blinding about
all the dozy C's who he'd dealt with over the years...

Anyone to recommend the RAC before I finally renew?!

Cheers,
Colin

> > Hey Will - congrats on passing the test.
> >
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> Ah... the 1800 K series..... what a wonderful beastie. Or is the Freelander
> a diesel?
Mens sana - 12 Jan 2004 21:57 GMT
> Hi Everyone
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>
> Will

Will,

Congratulations and good wishes for years of happy motoring.

Joe.
 
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