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Car Forum / MINI / February 2004Column
Here is the question ;) Will a Mk2 stalk fit underneath a Mk1 steering column cowl? If not, did some of the Mk2's have the key on the column and some on the dash? If so, what year was the change in? Thanks for the help and my never ending quest for classic looks AND functionality as the missus insists on things like hazard warning lights and easy to use wind screen wipers and other boring stuff like that. The Muffin Man The Mk2 cowl was wider than the Mk1, so I assume they are not mixable (is that a word?!). The Mk3 (1970 on) was the first to use a column key. However, the lock assembly is no longer available. This is the type that is at 90 degrees to the column. The Mk4 (1976 on) was the first to use the wipers on a stalk and the key switch moved round to point more towards the driver. The Mk3's indicator stalk was basically the same as the Mk2 to look at. HTH  SignatureRgds Steve steve@dsnclassics.co.uk www.dsnclassics.co.uk > Here is the question ;) > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The Muffin Man Is the Mk3 the one with the key barrel pointing straight out with a big bulge to hold it in place? Is it essential to get a Mk2 column or will the cowl and stalk bolt around the later one? Was the wiper switch on the dash rail with the Mk1 and 2 - it can't have been dual speed then? The Muffin Man > The Mk2 cowl was wider than the Mk1, so I assume they are not mixable (is > that a word?!). [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > The Muffin Man > Is the Mk3 the one with the key barrel pointing straight out with a big > bulge to hold it in place? Yes. > Is it essential to get a Mk2 column or will the cowl and stalk bolt around > the later one? Err... don't know! I think the actual column is the same. But the brackets on the outer tube for the cowl will probably be different. Also, the stalk mounting area on the tube may be different. > Was the wiper switch on the dash rail with the Mk1 and 2 - it can't have > been dual speed then? All UK Mk1 and Mk2 cars were single speed. When the early rocker switches (Mk3, 1970-1976) were introduced, there was a 2 speed version which was used on some export models. SignatureRgds Steve steve@dsnclassics.co.uk www.dsnclassics.co.uk So if I got a second mk1 light switch I could run the two speed motor from the dash with some constructive wiring ;) The Muffin Man > > Is the Mk3 the one with the key barrel pointing straight out with a big > > bulge to hold it in place? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > steve@dsnclassics.co.uk > www.dsnclassics.co.uk > So if I got a second mk1 light switch I could run the two speed motor from > the dash with some constructive wiring ;) > > The Muffin Man 'constructive'....... 'birds nest' is the term you were searching for :-) But, you might be able to use a Mk1 light switch to do the same thing. You would need to check carefully. The light switch is off-on-on but the bottom position still leaves the middle position live (for the side lights). The two speed wipers might need the middle position to be isolated when the second speed is connected. SignatureRgds Steve steve@dsnclassics.co.uk www.dsnclassics.co.uk > But, you might be able to use a Mk1 light switch to do the same thing. > You would need to check carefully. The light switch is off-on-on but > the bottom position still leaves the middle position live (for the side > lights). The two speed wipers might need the middle position to be > isolated when the second speed is connected. The Aussie two speed wiper motor uses four wires and requires two of them connected to make it park, so you cannot just use a headlight switch. However.... You can use a headlight switch to drive a couple of changeover relays to achieve the necessary result - I had a Mini 2 speed wiper motor in my Minor for a while, using a Minor headlight switch in place oif the single position wiper switch. If it appears the UK 2 speed wipers arer the same, ask and I'll dig out my record of how to make them work. We have fitted two speed wiper motors to the Mk1 round front and the switch to match you use a three position toggle switch from the MGB to run the wipers. (the wiper units were from Clubmans) Other cars may have the same Lucas switch (part No.) but this was the one that I asked for cos I was aware that it had the correct number of terminals for it to work and park. When wiring the switch up make sure that the placement of the wires is correct or you will stuff the park switch in the wiper motor. >>But, you might be able to use a Mk1 light switch to do the same thing. >>You would need to check carefully. The light switch is off-on-on but [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > If it appears the UK 2 speed wipers arer the same, ask and I'll dig out > my record of how to make them work. > 'constructive'....... 'birds nest' is the term you were searching for :-) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > two speed wipers might need the middle position to be isolated when the > second speed is connected. Don't the side lights turn off when it goes to main beam? I thought they did, perhaps I am imagining it. I will investigate as I have a Mk1 light switch downstairs in the kitchen cupboard (where all items mini related should live in all houses. I will get my multimeter out ;) The Muffin Man > Don't the side lights turn off when it goes to main beam? I thought they > did, perhaps I am imagining it. I will investigate as I have a Mk1 light [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The Muffin Man No, they stay on. Otherwise, your tail lights would go off too. SignatureRgds Steve steve@dsnclassics.co.uk www.dsnclassics.co.uk > No, they stay on. Otherwise, your tail lights would go off too. Well that solves a mystery ;) The Muffin Man |
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