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Car Forum / MINI / March 2004

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A-hole buggered up my door lock

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marc_9 - 08 Mar 2004 11:05 GMT
Some a-hole just buggered up my doorlock. They pulled up my Mk1 style
door handle. Cant appear to open it now, even when I unlock it.
I live in Sydney's (Australia of course) Inner West.
Any suggestions where I'd be able to get a good locksmith who'd be
able to handle a job like this one.
Can't get into the car - old Mk1's only could be locked/unlocked from
the driver side door.
Reply to this forum pse, the email doesnt work too!
Help....
Fitzy - 09 Mar 2004 18:04 GMT
If I remember correctly,
you should be able to force the handle back down in to the correct position
,  as the damage is already done and wont make any difference now, but
should give you access,
The door lock should be un damaged,
the damage will be in the handle where the barrel fits
Fitzy

> Some a-hole just buggered up my doorlock. They pulled up my Mk1 style
> door handle. Cant appear to open it now, even when I unlock it.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Reply to this forum pse, the email doesnt work too!
> Help....
k - 09 Mar 2004 22:13 GMT
> If I remember correctly,
> you should be able to force the handle back down in to the correct position
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Hi,
I think you will find the lock barel wrecked. When the door is locked, a
steel plunger moves out and locks into a slot in the bezel. If the handle
has been forced against this plunger it has almost certainly broken the end
of the casting and jammed. I would suggest (as Fitzy says) just force it
back and you should be able to open the door. Then remove the handle
assembly and inspect the damage. Remove the screw in the end of the shaft
where it shows through the inside lock, take out the 3 screws holding the
inside lock unit, and then there are two more screws behind the lock which
hold the handle assembly.

Keith
marc_9 - 10 Mar 2004 10:41 GMT
Thanks guys,
No the lock is still intact - fortunately. The handle is still okay
too. The unlucky bit is that the handles used in the Australian mk1's
are unique and cannot be bought brand new anymore from the UK. Minis
production was scraped in Australia around 1980. 2nd hand Spares are
also rare today. Anyway I had a closer look today (with someone more
qualified than myself) and we surmised that the returning spring was
broken. Also the actual door mechanism (name?)with the tongue
protrusion thingey that looks like your normal house door thingey, was
now loose and therefore damaged. Got hold of a second hand one for
AUD$28. Spring cost $10.
Not as bad as I thought.
I guess this is what happens when a mug like myself opposes a mega
building project next door to your home.
Thanks,
marc

> > If I remember correctly,
> > you should be able to force the handle back down in to the correct
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>
> Keith
Graham W - 10 Mar 2004 11:37 GMT
> No the lock is still intact - fortunately. The handle is still okay
> too. The unlucky bit is that the handles used in the Australian mk1's
> are unique and cannot be bought brand new anymore from the UK.

Is this a "MkI" door handle, as per early UK production, or a late
Australian lift up handle?

If it's the latter, good healthy examples are often found on the back
doors of Morris 1300s and 1500s in Australia. Mind you, finding a 1300
or 1500 is difficult too now days.

> Minis production was scraped in Australia around 1980.

Minis 1978, Mokes 1982.

> 2nd hand Spares are also rare today.

Where are you?

There are specialists in major cities, including Northern Mini Parts in
Melbourne, 03 9458 2111.
marc_9 - 10 Mar 2004 22:02 GMT
Graham,
It's definitely a Mk1 door handle. The car is a 1966 998 deluxe. I'm
in sydney. I did phone around to all the reputable places ie. Mini car
clinic (Padstow), Karcraft (Silverwater, and finally found what I
needed at Mini suzuki auto parts in Seven Hills.
Thanks
marc

> > No the lock is still intact - fortunately. The handle is still okay
> > too. The unlucky bit is that the handles used in the Australian mk1's
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> There are specialists in major cities, including Northern Mini Parts in
> Melbourne, 03 9458 2111.
The Muffin Man - 10 Mar 2004 22:12 GMT
How are they different from these (other than that one doesn't lock from the
outside)?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2464668937&category=43122

do you have the windey windows?

The Muffin Man

> Thanks guys,
> No the lock is still intact - fortunately. The handle is still okay
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> >
> > Keith
marc_9 - 11 Mar 2004 10:53 GMT
Muffin Man,
Yes, the doorhandles look exactly like that. And also yes, my 1966
mini deluxe has windup windows. I believe Australian Minis had windeys
as early as 1965. Correct me if I am wrong.
Marc

> How are they different from these (other than that one doesn't lock from the
> outside)?
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> > >
> > > Keith
Steve - 11 Mar 2004 15:27 GMT
I was under the impression that the handles were the same as the UK on these
cars. These are still being made from the original tooling in the UK.
However, I may stand to be corrected!

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Steve
steve@dsnclassics.co.uk
www.dsnclassics.co.uk

> Muffin Man,
> Yes, the doorhandles look exactly like that. And also yes, my 1966
> mini deluxe has windup windows. I believe Australian Minis had windeys
> as early as 1965. Correct me if I am wrong.
> Marc
marc_9 - 11 Mar 2004 21:15 GMT
The difference is that Australian Minis had windup windows from around
1965. As a result i was told there are slight modifications to the
handle mechanism, mainly to accomodate this quirk.
marc

> I was under the impression that the handles were the same as the UK on these
> cars. These are still being made from the original tooling in the UK.
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> > as early as 1965. Correct me if I am wrong.
> > Marc
The Muffin Man - 11 Mar 2004 22:26 GMT
> The difference is that Australian Minis had windup windows from around
> 1965. As a result i was told there are slight modifications to the
> handle mechanism, mainly to accomodate this quirk.
> marc

Wouldn't that be the mechanism itself rather than the handle then?  That
would move the handle out of the travel of the window, ie move it back a
bit.  But I am only guessing ;)

The Muffin Man
The Muffin Man - 11 Mar 2004 17:13 GMT
So when did you get lift up handles?

The Muffin Man

> Muffin Man,
> Yes, the doorhandles look exactly like that. And also yes, my 1966
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > How are they different from these (other than that one doesn't lock from the
> > outside)?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2464668937&category=43122

> > do you have the windey windows?
> >
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> > > >
> > > > Keith
Graham W - 11 Mar 2004 17:38 GMT
> So when did you get lift up handles?

1970.

Do you think maybe you could have trimmed a few lines of redundant text?
The Muffin Man - 11 Mar 2004 18:34 GMT
> > So when did you get lift up handles?
>
> 1970.
>
> Do you think maybe you could have trimmed a few lines of redundant text?

No

The Muffin Man
Graham W - 12 Mar 2004 10:53 GMT
>>>So when did you get lift up handles?

(followed by many many lines of redundant garbage)

>>1970.

>>Do you think maybe you could have trimmed a few lines of redundant text?

> No

I'll keep this in mind next time you ask a question I might be able to
answer.
The Muffin Man - 13 Mar 2004 01:23 GMT
> >>>So when did you get lift up handles?
>
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> I'll keep this in mind next time you ask a question I might be able to
> answer.
The Muffin Man - 13 Mar 2004 01:26 GMT
> >>>So when did you get lift up handles?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'll keep this in mind next time you ask a question I might be able to
> answer.

Fine, but be polite in the future.  You may well know the answer to life the
universe and everything but there is still no need to be so impolite.

If you want an example, someone may say something like "I may be wrong but
isn't..." and you reply "you *are* wrong...".

Fine, you may be right but grow some manners!!

The Muffin Man
(-AD-) - 13 Mar 2004 03:14 GMT
And Elvis was sitting next to The Muffin Man in the spaceship, which I
thought was kinda weird, but then they turned to me and said:

> Fine, you may be right but grow some manners!!

Oh, come on!

Graham is to my mind the best consistent source of good, solid
cluefulness on this group.

He can be as rude as he likes, as long as he's correct, and in this case
I have to agree that he was.

Grow up, and learn to use your newsreader properly.
Bernhard Ruprich - 20 Mar 2004 13:12 GMT
Am 10 Mar 2004 02:41:52 -0800 schrieb marc_9 <marc_9@freemail.com.au>:

> Thanks guys,
> No the lock is still intact - fortunately. The handle is still okay
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>>
>> Keith
 
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