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Car Forum / MINI / April 2004Write off, your opinion?
Hello all, After a lucky escape today (I got out with no injury) after coming off the M25, I need to know if it is poss to repair the following. Both wings are damaged, front panel is pushed back and my grill is nowhere to be seen, also the drivers side floor pan is ripped (from the door seam to about parallel with the brake paddle) and the front part is pushed up so i can put my hand through the floor and touch the road. I understand about the structrial problems, but is it possable to repair if i buy all the panels new. Forget economics for the moment because i am thinking of using the remains as a project mini. But is it possable? Nick Hi, Lucky you!! Anything is repairable, but it depends on how much time and effort you are prepared to put into it, and the cost. Depends also on your abilities and of course, your bravery in tackling such a big job. Any way, GOOD LUCK. Keith > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nick I think a new shell, would be the best bet  SignatureRocky ----- http://sail.to/dune1x ----- "One direction is as good as another"- Saying of the open sand > Hi, > Lucky you!! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Nick > Lucky you!! Any crash you (and everyone else) walks away from is a good crash? > Anything is repairable, But many things are not even remotely worth the time, effort and expense to repair. > "Nick Evans" <nick@huff.org.uk> wrote: >>After a lucky escape today (I got out with no injury) after coming off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>parallel with the brake paddle) and the front part is pushed up so i can >>put my hand through the floor and touch the road. And this one sounds like one of the latter. Forget about the shell. If you can buy the write off for a sensible price from whichever insurance company finishes up paying for it all, then it may be worth the cost for the parts if you have a use for them. But the body is almost certainly beyond amateur repairs and you wouldn't want to own a car which had been built from that body anyway. >>I understand about the structrial problems, but is it possable to repair >>if i buy all the panels new. If you buy all the panels new you can build your own new body shell, but why would you? >>Forget economics for the moment because i am thinking of using the >>remains as a project mini. But is it possable? If you have some emotional ties to the car, or if you think the parts are particularly worth having, then look into what it will cost you to buy the remains. But reshell it. FIX IT !! Keep it on the road, I have just put a new front panel and two new wings on a "F" reg 1988 mini, two sills and a new rear valance are next, its nothing special to look at but I just couldn't let it become a donor, Minilites are on and a paint job is imminent Fitzy > > Lucky you!! > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > are particularly worth having, then look into what it will cost you to > buy the remains. But reshell it. fitzy how much do you intend to pay for a repaint? "just being nosey" > FIX IT !! > Keep it on the road, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > are particularly worth having, then look into what it will cost you to > > buy the remains. But reshell it. Sorry for delayed reply Mark, I will probably pay around ?600 for the paint job, Fitzy > fitzy how much do you intend to pay for a repaint? > "just being nosey" [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > are particularly worth having, then look into what it will cost you to > > > buy the remains. But reshell it. <snipped> Thanks for all your replys. As it goes, the insurance co wont sell it back to me becasue apparantly 'it wont ever be allowed back on the road' and after asking for it back at scrap value for componant recovery he just made excuse after excuse and eventually gave me the number of the scrap merchents who will get it. TBH I just want a car that works at the moment, one day I want to do a mini project but not at the moment. Thanks again Nick That would pi$$ you off if it had a 1380 MED engine of an AC Dodd engine in it wouldn't it!! The Muffin Man > <snipped> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Nick > That would pi$$ you off if it had a 1380 MED engine of an AC Dodd engine in > it wouldn't it!! [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > > Nick Oh it just gets better, Just phoned up the salvage co that now has it, the engine they tell me they will sell back to me at ?175 quid, a 1275GT engine I had put in it not 4 weeks ago, that i bought for 150 quid. I asked them why they refuse to sell me the entire car for scrap value if I am going to use it for either componant recovery OR for non public road use (rally car for instance) and he couldn't answer that and just gave the the usual excuse that there is a risk it might end up on the road again. GAAAAAAH Nick > > That would pi$$ you off if it had a 1380 MED engine of an AC Dodd engine > in [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > will sell back to me at ?175 quid, a 1275GT engine I had put in it not 4 > weeks ago, that i bought for 150 quid. Hi, The 1275GT engine is nothing more than a standard Austin 1300 engine. It has no GT about it at all. It was the CAR that was the GT, and not the engine. Keith > I asked them why they refuse to sell me the entire car for scrap value if I > am going to use it for either componant recovery OR for non public road use [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > GAAAAAAH > Nick > > That would pi$$ you off if it had a 1380 MED engine of an AC Dodd engine > in [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > (rally car for instance) and he couldn't answer that and just gave the the > usual excuse that there is a risk it might end up on the road again. Well it remained your car until you settled with your insurer. You should have just been bloody minded and not settled the claim with them until they let you have what you wanted and a sensible price..... Far too many people seem to forget that they buy a service from the insurer that they pay for. Make the b*ggers work for their money when you need to claim! sorry to hear about your crash,but the main thing you are ok by the sound of the damage a reshell would be the most economic option,but anything is repairable if you have the cash! it will be a long hard job as the main floor is split away from the inner sill? or even the bulkhead this must have seriously weakened the mini as this it 1of the strongest parts of the car {across the bulkhead} > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nick It sounds like it was a low hit on the front. This pushes the front subframe back and buckles the floor. The bulkhead strength is almost entirely derived from the crossmember which is at parcel shelf height. The bulkhead was most likely unaffected. To fix this car the first step is usually to have the "frame" pulled. The rear sub or rear arms are chained to floor anchors or a frame machine and the front subframe is pulled until everything lines up. Obviously, there's more to it than this but the straightening is best done by a professional. After this the owner could replace panels himself. It amazes me that some individuals wouldn't touch a previously wrecked car but will buy one that was severely rusted and repaired by the owner without question. Cheers, Kelley >sorry to hear about your crash,but the main thing you are ok >by the sound of the damage a reshell would be the most economic option,but [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Nick > It amazes me that some individuals wouldn't touch a previously wrecked > car but will buy one that was severely rusted and repaired by the > owner without question. I wouldn't touch a home rust repaired car either, but then in Oz you don't need to. > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > economics for the moment because i am thinking of using the remains as a > project mini. But is it possable? Anything is possible, but as others have said given the extent of the damage - and its pretty bad by the sounds of it - another shell is the safest and most cost effective bet. If you don't want to go down the reshell route then look into getting a complete front assembly. These used to be available from Rover and would replace everything from the front cross member forward, i.e. all the front including the bulkhead, windscreen surround, and front floor. Whatever you do you will have to see a pro repairer first, even if its just the get the mess aligned before you do anything yourself. |
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