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Car Forum / MINI / July 2003

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Fuel guage / sending unit?

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Impala - 26 Jul 2003 04:52 GMT
Hello from the colonies

Thanks to the group and specially Oli for the help with the vac situation.
All is well now with that bit.
New question:
Fuel tank full, gauge reads full. Tank bone dry gauge reads full(happened
once, 50 meters form gas station! Whew lucky!).Always keep a dipping stick
with me now!
Any tips on which end to start checking first would be greatly appreciated.
I am not adverse to tearing into it, just wondering about others experiences
in this area.
Thanks again

Les
ops - 26 Jul 2003 05:45 GMT
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Firstly get an instrument that will put a resistance across the wires to
the gauge and check that the gauge is reading correctly..  with this you
pull the wires off at the tank unit and connect there. ...

There are set values which apply to the settings empty mid and full --
don't know off hand which these are. But finding out and buying some 5c
resisters of the values from an electronics shop will do.

If your gauge is accurate then have a look at the tank unit by placing a
ohm (multi metre )  across the gauge when removed from the tank checking
the resistance to the values of the given values of the gauge.

My guess is that its a broken wire/stuck (stuffed)  tank unit.

rm
The Muffin Man - 26 Jul 2003 09:44 GMT
I had this problem with the pickup two years ago.  The sender unit had
rusted in one position.  The ball cock couldn't go up or down :(

The Muffin Man

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Graham - 26 Jul 2003 16:51 GMT
> Hello from the colonies

Hello from around the corner in sunny Melbourne.

> Fuel tank full, gauge reads full. Tank bone dry gauge reads
> full(happened once, 50 meters form gas station! Whew lucky!).Always
> keep a dipping stick with me now!

Did this start suddenly, and the guage has been stuck on full ever
since, or does it just *sometimes* stick on full?

> Any tips on which end to start checking first would be greatly
> appreciated.

If the problem is intermittent, then it might be a corroded or sticky
send unit, but my money says that either the wire has fallen off the
sender unit (inside the boot) or the guage (behind the instruments,
unlikely on a Clubman) or the instrument voltage regulator has died,
particularly if the problem started suddenly and stayed.

> I am not adverse to tearing into it, just wondering about others
> experiences in this area.

Look for loose wires first.
Makka - 27 Jul 2003 13:00 GMT
graham not picking but if the voltage reg was stuffed the temp gauge would
read wrong
makka
sunny melbourne ....... pffffffffffffft
cold arrid place it is ;)

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Boink - 27 Jul 2003 23:18 GMT
Reading FULL all the time would suggest a short somewhere. Normally, when
you connect the wires together at the sender you'll get a full reading.

What happens when you disconnect a wire(s) at the sender? If the reading
goes down to EMPTY, then there is a short in the sender (or as others have
indicated it is sticky).

"Impala" <
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Graham - 28 Jul 2003 02:48 GMT
> Reading FULL all the time would suggest a short somewhere. Normally,
> when you connect the wires together at the sender you'll get a full
> reading.

That depends on the guage and sender design. Some show full with a high
resistance to earth, some show full with a low resistance to earth.

Minis have had both types over the years.
Impala - 28 Jul 2003 16:53 GMT
Thanks to the group for the information. It's nice to know one can always
count on this group for help and information!Will be putting that help to
work this week.
Les

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