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MIG welding and shielding gas

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John Reinders - 02 May 2004 11:53 GMT
Has anyone experience with the shielding gas during MIG welding mild steel
on a
Mini?

I used CO2, Argon/CO2 (95% / 5%) and pure Argon.

The settings on the machine have to be adapted to the gas, as I have
noticed.

Which of the three gives the best results and is easy to use?

Thanks!
me - 03 May 2004 06:57 GMT
> Has anyone experience with the shielding gas during MIG welding mild steel
> on a
> Mini?
>
> I used CO2, Argon/CO2 (95% / 5%) and pure Argon.

It will depend on the thickness of the material to be welded. I get a
mix of argon /co2.

You will have to ask where you get your gas from what they mix.

> The settings on the machine have to be adapted to the gas, as I have
> noticed.
>
> Which of the three gives the best results and is easy to use?
>
> Thanks!
Steve - 05 May 2004 17:38 GMT
> Has anyone experience with the shielding gas during MIG welding mild steel
> on a
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>
> Thanks!

No technical explanation, but I find the 5% argon mix to be easiest.

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me - 06 May 2004 13:19 GMT
>>Has anyone experience with the shielding gas during MIG welding mild steel
>>on a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> No technical explanation, but I find the 5% argon mix to be easiest.

Technical Explanation!

It depends on the application this is what's happening.

Straight argon is not desirable for MIG on carbon steel - not enough
'oomph',the welds are pretty but they sit on top and are more likely to
cold-cast.

Straight CO2 is very hot, hard to use on thin material, and plenty of
spatter.  (Flux core wire does this)

You need either 25% CO2 and 75% argon, or a tri-mix which is usually
around  80%  argon, 15% CO2 and  5% O2 (the mix varies by manufacturer
and purpose).  Another alternative is 98% argon with 2% O2.

Straight argon is needed for aluminum, and it's usable for  stainless
steel (better is the 2% O2 mix).

The bottom line is that for most hobby MIG welding 25% CO2 and 75%
argon, is the stuff you want.

So you weld thin material then more argon  - thick material more CO2.
 
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