Here's a stumper. I have a strange noise in the front end; it's not really
a vibration, just a WOH...WOH...WOH noise with a frequency that matches the
rotation of the tires, in or out of gear, engine off or on.
It sounds a bit like a propeller airplane drone, only it matches the tire
rotation. At freeway speeds it is not noticeable; higher speeds are
therefore stabilizing the problem and reducing the noise, rather than
showing up as vibration.
I have some front-end shaking under hard braking, but I had chalked that up
to misalignment.
It doesn't change if I steer left, right, or straight. I can't isolate the
exact area in the front where it's coming from.
Recently I have done the following things to my Mini in the following order:
1. Replaced the oil seal on my left driveshaft
2. Front-end alignment
3. Replaced the front right lower balljoint
4. Front-end alignment again
The noise seemed to start after #1.
My bushes are all in good shape, and with the front end jacked up the wheels
are nice and tight in all directions - I've had both front hubs apart before
without finding any problem, and no longer have any reason to suspect
front-end looseness in any component.
The driveshaft nut is torqued down properly and the wheels are a few months
old with no visible problems. I rotated them front-to-back and did notice
wear on the inside of the front tires, so obviously I had too much toe-out
for awhile.
I wonder if I should forget trying to do my own alignment, and if that is
still the problem - would it make that noise with improper alignment?
I've been told that getting an alignment in the U.S. may be a problem
because the car is so narrow that most shops won't have alignment equipment
that can handle it - can anyone confirm this?
Thanks all, in advance!
Geoff
Graham W - 21 May 2004 04:18 GMT
> Here's a stumper. I have a strange noise in the front end; it's not really
> a vibration, just a WOH...WOH...WOH noise with a frequency that matches the
> rotation of the tires, in or out of gear, engine off or on.
Logically it's got to be somewhere between the tyre and the diff centre.
Two large sections of the problem can be readily changed. Start by
putting your spare wheel on one front corner, and see if the problem
goes away. Repeat if necessary on the opposite side.
If that doesn't fix it, the next likely candidate is obviously some
aspect of the drive shafts, but I suspect you'll find you have a "square
tyre".
Geoffrey Bard - 21 May 2004 05:23 GMT
You're right - I just can't figure out where, since my driveshafts and hubs
are tight.
The wheels have already been rotated from the rear to the front (the rear
tires being in excellent shape) and there was zero difference in the noise.
Since I performed the alignment myself, I can't help but wonder if I screwed
it up really badly, and perhaps it's STILL out of alignment.
> Logically it's got to be somewhere between the tyre and the diff centre.
>
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> aspect of the drive shafts, but I suspect you'll find you have a "square
> tyre".
Graham W - 21 May 2004 13:10 GMT
> You're right - I just can't figure out where, since my driveshafts and hubs
> are tight.
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> Since I performed the alignment myself, I can't help but wonder if I screwed
> it up really badly, and perhaps it's STILL out of alignment.
But no matter how bad the alignment, to get a noise which repeats with
each turn of the wheels, the wheels themselves, or the driveshafts or
diff centre need to be uneven. Bad wheel alignment cannot explain this
problem.
Fitzy - 28 May 2004 08:59 GMT
> > You're right - I just can't figure out where, since my driveshafts and hubs
> > are tight.
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> diff centre need to be uneven. Bad wheel alignment cannot explain this
> problem.
What about jacking it up and running the car in 3rd or 4th gear,
this should eliminate the wheels and tyres (tires)
(secure the vehicle with axle stands at all times)
you could also listen to the hubs with a screwdriver or stethoscope,
Fitzy