> I'm looking for offset values for standard Austin/Rover 12" mini
> alloys but I'm having problems finding anything. There are lots of
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> Cheers,
> B.
The "offset" is the difference between the centre line of the wheel and the
back of the hub, or the mating surface as you call it.
The distance from the back of the hub to the straight edge across the inner
rim is NOT the offset, but I have heard it called the "rear depth" or the "T
dimension".
I have here a mid 1980s ARG factory Mayfair alloy, part number NAM6071.
It is marked 4.50B x 12 x 33, suggesting that the offset might be 33mm.
I just measured the T dimension as 104 mm.
This is a 4.5 inch wheel, but that is the inside width of the channel that
the tyre sits in. The wheel has a tyre on it, which makes it hard to measure
the outside width accurately, but as a rule the outside width of an alloy
wheel is about 1 inch more, so we just add an inch.
If the outside width is 5.5 inches, and 1 inch = 25.45mm, the width is 140mm
, and the centre line of the wheel will be 70mm from the back edge.
The T dimension or rear depth was measured as 104mm.
Offset is centre line minus depth, i.e. 70 - 104 = -34,
so we have calculated the offset as -34 mm.
Which is pretty close to 33, and suggests that my guesstimate at the total
width - just add an inch - is out by one ot two mm.
So we conclude these wheels have a negative offset of 33mm.
Lock
Lock Horsburgh - 18 May 2004 11:19 GMT
> > I'm looking for offset values for standard Austin/Rover 12" mini
> > alloys but I'm having problems finding anything. There are lots of
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>
> Lock
And another thing: as an afterthought, I measured two other wheels.
5x12 GB minilite style
assume outside width = 6" = 153mm
so centre line = 76mm
T = 95
Offset = 76 - 95 = 19mm.
5.5x13 Carmona minilite style
No tyre, outside width measures as 161mm (about 6 and 3/8")
centre line = 80
T = 98
Offset = 80 - 98 = 18.
Wheels wider than these would require less negative offset.
The T dimension (depth) cannot be much greater without fouling on the radius
arms and shockers, so the T stays the same as the width increases, therefore
less offset. In other words, wider wheels stick out more, they don't stick
in more.
Lock
Steve - 18 May 2004 16:26 GMT
> Which is pretty close to 33, and suggests that my guesstimate at the total
> width - just add an inch - is out by one ot two mm.
>
> So we conclude these wheels have a negative offset of 33mm.
>
> Lock
I would suspect that a standard wheel has positive offset.
Positive is 'inset'. Centreline of wheel is inboard of hub face.
Negative is 'outset'. Centreline of wheel is outboard of hub face.
Not important, but just for information!

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Lock Horsburgh - 19 May 2004 10:28 GMT
> > Which is pretty close to 33, and suggests that my guesstimate at the total
> > width - just add an inch - is out by one ot two mm.
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> Negative is 'outset'. Centreline of wheel is outboard of hub face.
> Not important, but just for information!
I could be wrong but I think it's the other way round, positive offset is
stickyoutness (deep outside like Starsky and Hutch Mobile), negative offset
is sticks inward.
E.g. FWD Vauxhalls and Opels are nearly all 49mm negative, the outer rim is
just about in line with the wheel nuts, and Mk1 & 2 Golf GTi have 38mm
negative - the T is over 5" on a 5.5" wheel.
The original 3.5x10 mini wheel for drum brakes is probably positive offset,
but I don't have one handy to measure.
Lock
Steve - 20 May 2004 17:30 GMT
> > I would suspect that a standard wheel has positive offset.
> > Positive is 'inset'. Centreline of wheel is inboard of hub face.
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>
> Lock
Not according to all the alloy wheels we keep in stock! As an example, our
deep dish (stickyouty ones!) are -7mm and the more inset ones are +10mm.
Both are 7x13.

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