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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / August 2004

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1995 Eclipse GST Rough Ride

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Stephen Porter - 12 Aug 2004 03:03 GMT
Hello all, I bought a 1995 Eclipse GST with 78k miles on it about a month
ago now. Well the ride is finally getting to me, it seems like it hits the
bumpstops in a hurry on the numerous bumps around this city. I really doubt
the struts are bad, i'm thinking this is just normal, but this is terrible
ride quality and I don't want to sell it just for that but if I have to I
will. I know this was the new design at the time so i know how that goes.
Can anyone tell me there ride quality on there 1995 talon's, eclipse
gst/gsx's? Other than that the car is excellent in every other way. I didn't
want to spend 400 bucks on struts and have it ride the same. Also when the
road is smooth it rides like it's on a smooth sheet of ice. Also looking for
any recommendations too.

Thanks,
Stephen
1995 Eclipse GS-T
Stewart DIBBS - 12 Aug 2004 12:09 GMT
> Hello all, I bought a 1995 Eclipse GST with 78k miles on it about a month
> ago now. Well the ride is finally getting to me, it seems like it hits the
> bumpstops in a hurry on the numerous bumps around this city. I really doubt
> the struts are bad ...

If it hits the bump stops, then either
a) the previous owner fitted lowered springs; or/and
b) the struts are stuffed. Just because the odometer shows 78K does not mean
the struts are OK. Odometers can be changed with lower mileage units from a
wrecker, or reset to any mileage desired...

Check for oil leaks on the strut body. KYB GR2's are an acceptable choice.
After 9 years, replace the strut top insulators too, as these stretch after
a while and don't absorb road noise any more.

Stewart DIBBS
Stephen Porter - 13 Aug 2004 06:59 GMT
Ok there is still plenty of wheel gap in there so i'm guessing they aren't
lowering springs. Maybe the struts are worn out. How much are those KYB's
and those isolators? Anything else you can think of? So i'm guessing this
isn't normal for this car? ;)

> > Hello all, I bought a 1995 Eclipse GST with 78k miles on it about a month
> > ago now. Well the ride is finally getting to me, it seems like it hits the
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> Stewart DIBBS
Stewart DIBBS - 15 Aug 2004 20:54 GMT
> Ok there is still plenty of wheel gap in there so i'm guessing they aren't
> lowering springs. Maybe the struts are worn out. How much are those KYB's
> and those isolators?

KYB GR2 struts for an Eclipse are about C$100 each. Check with your local
speed shop. Strut insulators you get from a Mitsu dealer: I replaced some
three weeks ago, about C$45 each.  Rear KYBs are also about $100 each.

Add labour to install, and probably a wheel alignment.

Other stuff? Your front lower arm bushes are soft by now. Replace either
with std or aftermarket from Energy Suspension. See what is available for
the rear bushes too.  These will return the ride to new car feel. Check with
you speed shop.

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Stephen Porter - 15 Aug 2004 23:23 GMT
What do you think about the difference in ride with me buying gabriel struts
from autozone instead of the kyb's? Would it ride more oem and better than
the kyb's? Just wouldn't handle as good?

> > Ok there is still plenty of wheel gap in there so i'm guessing they aren't
> > lowering springs. Maybe the struts are worn out. How much are those KYB's
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> the rear bushes too.  These will return the ride to new car feel. Check with
> you speed shop.
Stewart DIBBS - 17 Aug 2004 02:49 GMT
> What do you think about the difference in ride with me buying gabriel struts
> from autozone instead of the kyb's? `

I have no experience with Gabriels. KYBs can take the punishment. I have
Koni's in one car, used Tokico's in rally cars.

Stewart DIBBS
Eric F - 17 Aug 2004 21:13 GMT
anything will ride better than OEM.

I've heard KYB's are more for trucks, stiffer type rides.  I'd look into the
monroe sensatrac's.. the Gabriel's are nothing more than OEM equivalent's..
maybe a tad better..

If you want a stiff sport ride, look into Bilstein's..

> What do you think about the difference in ride with me buying gabriel struts
> from autozone instead of the kyb's? Would it ride more oem and better than
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> > you speed shop.
Stephen Porter - 18 Aug 2004 02:55 GMT
Hmm ok i'll look into that Monroe strut. I always thought the OEM
struts/shocks on cars were the best you can get as far as comfortable ride.
Also what other bushings besides the lower control arms should I replace
too?

Thanks

> anything will ride better than OEM.
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Stewart DIBBS - 18 Aug 2004 12:00 GMT
> anything will ride better than OEM.
>
> I've heard KYB's are more for trucks, stiffer type rides.  I'd look into the
> monroe sensatrac's.

Mitsu have used KYB as OEMs for years. GR2's are not particularly stiff,
just noticably better than the originals. I've used Sensatraks, and find the
quality patchy and the new ride condition deteriorates within six months, to
so-so. GR2s are about the same price as the Sensatraks, last longer and are
IMHO a better strut.

Stewart DIBBS
 
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