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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / December 2005

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1991 Colt gti 16v

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jonpdavies - 19 Dec 2005 14:30 GMT
does anyone know why a "whoomping sound" appears when i apply the brake
pedal?

anyone knoe of any major issues on a 1991 colt gti 16v with 66,000 kms
on the clock? what should i look out for?

thanks in advance

jon
Stewart DIBBS - 19 Dec 2005 23:00 GMT
> does anyone know why a "whoomping sound" appears when i apply the brake
> pedal?

"whoomping sound" ? Depending on your definition, could be almost anything,
starting with
a) worn brake pads
b) loose parts in the brake booster
c) front struts and/or ball joints
d) strut top insulators
e) other stuff

Try to be more definitive eg is it metallic grating or rubbing, does the
pedal vibrate, where's the noise coming from: front or rear, left or right.

Stewart DIBBS
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jonpdavies - 20 Dec 2005 07:11 GMT
Stewart,

Thanks for the reply! Apologies for not being specific enough...the
whooping sound comes from the back, and is not a metallic sound, the
pedal does not vibralte.

When the brake pedal is pressed, the braking is not instant, but the
car does come to a stand still.

This is a 1991 1.8 gti 16v Colt with 66,000kms on the clock.

Any other advice would be appreciated.

Jon

> > does anyone know why a "whoomping sound" appears when i apply the brake
> > pedal?
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Stewart DIBBS - 20 Dec 2005 12:40 GMT
> whooping sound comes from the back, and is not a metallic sound, the
> pedal does not vibrate.
> When the brake pedal is pressed, the braking is not instant, but the
> car does come to a stand still.

Pull the rear drums and look at the pads and the slave cylinders.  I suspect
you have a leaking slave cylinder or/and the linings are worn out. If the
linings are soaked with fluid, you need a new set. Check the level of brake
fluid in the master cylinder.

Check your front brake while you are at it.

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jonpdavies - 20 Dec 2005 12:53 GMT
thanks again for the reply stewart, would you expect this to be an
£xpensive job?
Stewart DIBBS - 20 Dec 2005 22:49 GMT
would you expect this to be an £xpensive job?

Assuming it is the rear brakes ...

replacement slaves are pretty cheap, as are sets of linings, at least here
in Canada. There's a couple of hours labour to swap out both sides. You may
also need new or skimmed drums ... unless you have rear disks. The gti is
not sold here.

Point is, you need to have someone look at it and quote.
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Tomac - 21 Dec 2005 13:25 GMT
yes, that model in europe have disks on reaer side...

> would you expect this to be an £xpensive job?
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> Point is, you need to have someone look at it and quote.
jonpdavies - 21 Dec 2005 16:37 GMT
Tomac, thank you for the reply!!...yep i though it was discs all
round...does this sound like an expensive job to you? i dont know much
about mitsubishi, especially the 1.8 gti-16v..does this vehicle sound
like a good buy to you? any info would be appreciated
Stewart DIBBS - 22 Dec 2005 00:13 GMT
>does this vehicle sound like a good buy ?

Only 66K km on a 91? That's VERY low. 4K / year or about 400 / month.  You'd
need to get the timing belt changed, simply because of age.  The engine may
be quite worn if its never been up to running temperature often enough.
Valve stem seals dry out and cause high oil consumption and smoke on start.
Compression should be tested.

Check the condition of the radiator and look at the oil in the engine and
transmission. You may or may not have slow 1-2 synchos. A bit of slowness on
a 91 is normal, but all changes should be easy to do. Esspecially check the
4-5 and 5-4 change.

Check for wheel bearing noise.

The noise may not be brakes, but these need to be looked at.  If you are not
mechanically inclined, get the car evaluated by a professional: have it
treated as a '91, not low mileage.

It may well be a good buy that will give years of service with just a few
recommended repairs, but may also be a real lemon. Get the maintenance
records if they are available.

Stewart DIBBS
www.pixcl.com/lancerproject.htm
jonpdavies - 22 Dec 2005 08:00 GMT
Stewart,

Cheers for the info! yep i know the mileage is low, but it is a
gibraltar car, and if you dont know gibraltar, it is only about 3.5 kms
long! so vehicles here are very very low mileage...gibraltar is on the
very south of spain..

i think i shall follow your advice and have it looked over by a
mechanic before i part with my hard earned cash and buy the vehicle

thanks, and have a nice xmas

jon

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