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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / June 2006

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Follow up: 1997 Galant: idle surging problem

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morshedbashir@gmail.com - 19 Jun 2006 23:15 GMT
Hi all,
Its about my 97 Galant ES 95k miles with auto trans. I was experiencing
idle surge with check engine light ON. The dealer extracted code P0505
Idle speed control circuit problem and conculded bad ISC motor. The
motor assembly was changed two weeks back. The car was running fine,
until yesterday. It started idle surge again with check engine light
ON. Then it changed to rpm staying at 2000 at idle when the engine is
fully warm. I will take the car tomorrow to the dealer to find out what
is causing the problem. The ISC replacement had 1 year warrenty, so I
am expecting a warrenty job. In the meantime, I am looking forward to
you experts for any sugestions, opinions and/or comments.
Thank you in advance.
Morshed
Stewart DIBBS - 20 Jun 2006 11:56 GMT
>... bad ISC motor. The motor assembly was changed two weeks back. The car
>was running fine,
> until yesterday.

The usual problems with the ISC motor are
a) one of the two coils goes open circuit ie it burns out.
b) the ISC internal gears chew themselves up, likely causing a).

The issue is therefore why the ISC chews up the internal gears. The usual
reason is that there's a build up of carbon and fuel gum in the throttle
body that stresses and jams the ISC gears. This gunk has to be cleaned out.
Further, most of the carbon comes from the PCV valve that vents hot oil
vapour into the intake from the rocker cover. This oil vapour can become
excessive when the valve stem seals are old and not doing their job
adequately any more. Since your car is a 97, its not unlikely. Piston rIng
blowby is another source.

At a guess, the dealer tech has just replaced the ISC motor without doing an
adequate check (and clean) of the rest of the throttle body to ensure that
the ISC can adjust the speed freely. It may be that the new ISC is faulty,
but its unlikely. An unexpected failure (esspesially if the ISC gears are
again stripped) should result in a more detailed investigation.

Yes, its a warranty issue. Be polite to the dealer.

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