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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / December 2006

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Timing belt - best real-world replacement interval?

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CrunchyCookie - 09 Oct 2006 21:26 GMT
What's the best real-world interval for timing belt replacement?  I'm just here to announce that I bought a 99 Mirage LS with 101,000 miles on its original belt!  I changed it, of course, but the Mitsu dealer technician guy who checked it out says "yeah, little 1.8L engines can go 100K on their originals easily."  True?

For the record, the manual says that for California/Massachusetts/Connecticut, 60,000 miles is "recommended but not required" while every other state gets 100,000.  What the hell?
Mook Johnson - 23 Oct 2006 01:28 GMT
Ask that Mitsu dealer technition guy what happens when the belt breaks.  A buddy of mine had a honda prelude that said the timing belt shoudl be changed at 80K. Well it broke at 75K and trashed his engine.  All the honda folks had to say was "your warrenty is 3 years or 60K miles which ever comes first"  

Realistically how much are you saving by changine it at 80K instead of 60K.  Here it cost $400 to change a belt. If oyu keep your car for 200K miles, youve changed the belt 3 times instad of two.  An extra 400 dollars distributed the 10 or so years it takes to put that on the car is worth the piece of mind.  Not only do they trash the engine but also leave you RING at the spot they pop.  Be it on a long trip, a bad neighborhood, or late for a big appointment.

Just not worth the worry to me.



 What's the best real-world interval for timing belt replacement?  I'm just here to announce that I bought a 99 Mirage LS with 101,000 miles on its original belt!  I changed it, of course, but the Mitsu dealer technician guy who checked it out says "yeah, little 1.8L engines can go 100K on their originals easily."  True?

 For the record, the manual says that for California/Massachusetts/Connecticut, 60,000 miles is "recommended but not required" while every other state gets 100,000.  What the hell?
Steve Daniels - 23 Oct 2006 16:29 GMT
>What's the best real-world interval for timing belt replacement?  I'm =
>just here to announce that I bought a 99 Mirage LS with 101,000 miles on =
>its original belt!  I changed it, of course, but the Mitsu dealer =
>technician guy who checked it out says "yeah, little 1.8L engines can go =
>100K on their originals easily."  True?

Apparently in your case, yes.

I got myself a 97 Diamonte with over 100K on the clock.  One Fine
Morning the check engine light came on, so I took it in to see
WTF.  The valve cover gaskets had failed and allowed oil to pool
into the spark plug well, destroying the plug wire insulation and
causing a misfire.

The mechanic also said that they were the original wires, and the
original plugs.  I knew that changing the plugs was supposed to
happen *way* before that, and figured that if that maintenance
hadn't been done, the more expensive jobs had been left out as
well.

I had them change the belt and the water pump, and bring the rest
of the maintenance up to date.  The number one thing I need from
my car is that it work when I want it to, and now I motor about
in a much more relaxed frame of mind.

Swap that baby out every 60K?  Hell yes.
David Geesaman - 26 Oct 2006 18:21 GMT
> Swap that baby out every 60K?  Hell yes.

While I agree that it's poor economics to wait an extra 40k, there is
one very contrary fact about the 60k standard: In california it's 100k.
 It's in the manual of our 2001 Eclipse 4cyl. And no, they don't supply
a different belt to cali.

I've never been able to resolve that issue.  I know it won't matter a
bit if the engine blew between 60-100k and it's not a Cali car, but it
really makes one think.

Dave
CrunchyCookie - 04 Nov 2006 14:54 GMT
> While I agree that it's poor economics to wait an extra 40k, there is
> one very contrary fact about the 60k standard: In california it's 100k.
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> Dave

Original poster here...  You got it backwards: Mitsu recommends 60K for California (and Mass and Conn), 100K for everyone else.
TE Chea - 10 Dec 2006 12:02 GMT
> I've never been able to resolve that issue.

I think this question of when, depends on how hot the engine gets
; neoprene ages ( hardens & cracks ) faster with heat.
Japanese manufacturers don't calibrate their tmprtre gauges, so 1
way to tell if an engine ( in a fwd car ) is too hot is to touch the
front*wheels : if * cannot be touched for 1 minute, then engine
is too hot for belts to last as long as expected per service
schedule.
I made & fitted 11 sets of copper / aluminium wires with washer
-connectors & silver paste, from a 4G15P ( 3 onto distributor, 2
onto thermostat cover, 6 onto rocker cover's 3 bolts near exhaust
manifold ) to its compartment walls, then * are not too hot to
touch.
The 1st t-belts nearly broke by 76958 km, mechanic said in Msia,
from his experience, t-belts must be changed after 70000 km.  I
believe the 2nd t-belts ( in a cooler engine ) will age slower.
 
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