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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / November 2006

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92 Eclipse

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Todd2454@gmail.com - 12 Nov 2006 03:02 GMT
I just purchased a nice eclipse for 150 it is a 92.  When I say nice I
mean the body and the interior is nice.  The car however does not
start.  I was told the car needs clutch.  When I went to pick up the
title and keys I attempted to start it.  When the car is in neutral and
the clutch is depressed it will whirl and sometimes a metal clunking
noise is made.  I had the previous owner do this while I watched I
noticed when it just whirls the accessory belt does not turn when it
clunks the belt turns a little.  If you try to start the car with it in
gear and the clutch depressed it does the same thing except goes
forward while doing the whirring and clunking.  Any help would be much
appreciated.
Also what components do I need to replace to do a full clutch.

Clutch set
Pressure Plate
Flywheel and Ring Gear
Master and Slave cyl.
does that sound right? How many labor hours in terms of flat rate.
Yar - 12 Nov 2006 07:41 GMT
Todd2454@gmail.com wrote in news:1163300579.354722.223110
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

> I just purchased a nice eclipse for 150 it is a 92.  When I say nice I
> mean the body and the interior is nice.  The car however does not
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> Master and Slave cyl.
> does that sound right? How many labor hours in terms of flat rate.

Sounds like maybe the starter isn't engaging all the time.  If the bendex
doesn't engage the flywheel, the starter motor will just spin, making a
whirling noise.  On the other hand, you may have worn or missing teeth on
your flywheel and the bendex just barely engages, giving a clunking sound
as it spins.  Remove the starter motor and check the ring gear teeth and
the solnoid.
While you may need a clutch, the motor should at least turn over, with the
clutch pedal depressed.  While your replacing the clutch, check the
flywheel gear teeth for wear.
Todd2454@gmail.com - 12 Nov 2006 15:21 GMT
How would I check to see if the timing belt has gone or does this not
sound like a timing belt problem?
Nirodac - 13 Nov 2006 07:29 GMT
Sorry I couldn't post a reply to your other msg about the timing belt,
Xnews wouldn't let me.

If your timing belt had jumped a few teeth, the motor would crank but not
start
If the belt had jumped several teeth the bashing sound would (depending
on the engine)
be continuos as the pistons beat themselves against your valves (a very
bad thing)
If the belt was totally gone, same bashing sound, but constantly, as you
cranked the engine.  BUT, the differance between a
timing belt going and a starter motor problem (as in your case) is that
your accessory belt is intermittantly turning.
It is driven from the crank shaft pully, which is cranked by the starter
motor.  It should always turn when your cranking the engine,
assuming of course that whatever it is driving hasn't seized up.
Usually there is an plastic cover at one end of the valve cover that
comes off and exposes the timing belt.

Sorry I couldn't post a reply to your other msg about the timing belt,
Xnews wouldn't let me.

If your timing belt had jumped a few teeth, the motor would crank but not
start
If the belt had jumped several teeth the bashing sound would (depending
on the engine)
be continuos as the pistons beat themselves against your valves (a very
bad thing)
If the belt was totally gone, same bashing sound (depending on engine),
but constantly, as you cranked the engine.  BUT, the differance between a
timing belt going and a starter motor problem (as in your case) is that
your accessory belt is intermittantly turning.
It is driven from the crank shaft pully, which is cranked by the starter
motor.  It should always turn when your cranking the engine,
assuming of course that whatever it is driving hasn't seized up.
Usually there is an plastic cover at one end of the valve cover that
comes off and exposes the timing belt.

Todd2454@gmail.com wrote in news:1163300579.354722.223110
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

> I just purchased a nice eclipse for 150 it is a 92.  When I say nice I
> mean the body and the interior is nice.  The car however does not
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Master and Slave cyl.
> does that sound right? How many labor hours in terms of flat rate.
Todd2454@gmail.com - 14 Nov 2006 04:33 GMT
So does anyone have mitchell1 or some book of that sort so I can figure
out the labor rate to change out the clutch and flywheel and also the
labor rate of the timing belt without head removal.

> Sorry I couldn't post a reply to your other msg about the timing belt,
> Xnews wouldn't let me.
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> > Master and Slave cyl.
> > does that sound right? How many labor hours in terms of flat rate.
Nirodac - 14 Nov 2006 04:42 GMT
> So does anyone have mitchell1 or some book of that sort so I can
> figure out the labor rate to change out the clutch and flywheel and
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>>
>> Todd2454@gmail.com wrote in news:1163300579.354722.223110
Personnally, I would worry about the engine 1st, before I would worry
about the clutch.  Check the timing belt alignment, check the starter
motor, then check the compression.  You can learn lots from compression
tests.

>> @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
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>> > Master and Slave cyl.
>> > does that sound right? How many labor hours in terms of flat rate.
 
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