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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / August 2007biggest engine swap possible
hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and wanting to expand my knowledge on cars. a project i am currently wanting to do is put the biggest full power engine into my 98 eclipse gs, i am wanting all power from the engine without a turbo, does anyone know of an engine that would fit and have some hp behind it? eclipse98 ha scritto: > hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and wanting > to expand my knowledge on cars. a project i am currently wanting to do is > put the biggest full power engine into my 98 eclipse gs, i am wanting all > power from the engine without a turbo, does anyone know of an engine that > would fit and have some hp behind it? just a question: do you want to swap the engine inside, or do you want to put your actual engine to max power? What engine do you have inside? simplest way to have big power from a n/t is nitrous oxide, provided you stiff all the drivetrain to cope with big power. without a turbo, to gain 30% more of power needs over 3000 USD. see this page for hints and tips: http://www.dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=2gntupgrades bye  Signaturehttp://www.phantomplate.com/affiliatewiz/aw.aspx?A=1563&Task=Click ya i currently have the stock 420A engine, and was told that for goin to swap an engine i should do the 4G63 engine along with a turbo. does anyone know where to pick up one for a lil less than $2100 > ya i currently have the stock 420A engine, and was told that for goin to > swap an engine i should do the 4G63 engine along with a turbo. does anyone > know where to pick up one for a lil less than $2100 I agree, a guy on DSMTUNERS just bragged about 600 hp on a stock bottom end. Generally it is accepted that stock the engines are good for 400 hp, much more and you should be changing rods and pistons. Try ebay, they periodically come up where someone is parting out a whole car. You will also have to swap out your computer, on ebay search "eclipse engine", you may find an engine/ecu/tranny combo for under $2500. Also check DSMTUNER.com - check out regional, tech and classified sections. > hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and wanting > to expand my knowledge on cars. a project i am currently wanting to do is > put the biggest full power engine into my 98 eclipse gs, i am wanting all > power from the engine without a turbo, does anyone know of an engine that > would fit and have some hp behind it? If you go turbo - there are guy making 1000 HP with 2.0 four banger. 400 HP is very acheivable for the average guy. As with anything, the more and bigger you go the more it will cost. So start with the basics, how is your car going to be used, drag strip only, street car, street/autocross? How much horsepower do you want and how much do you have to spend. check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0HQegnUG0 or maybe you just want a 9 second eclipse: Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN-OLrvCHZs > hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and wanting > to expand my knowledge on cars. a project i am currently wanting to do is > put the biggest full power engine into my 98 eclipse gs, i am wanting all > power from the engine without a turbo, does anyone know of an engine that > would fit and have some hp behind it? Why on earth would you spend one dime on this stock piece of sh*t? Even if you put a decent engine in it, this generation of Eclipses are bound to have catastrophic failures such as brakes, transmissions and sheet metal. If yer gettin to like cars, try a better brand, Mitsu = POS. >> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >> wanting [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > have catastrophic failures such as brakes, transmissions and sheet metal. > If yer gettin to like cars, try a better brand, Mitsu = POS. Bhagat Gurtu why did you change your handle???? Same sh.t different day john ha scritto: > Bhagat Gurtu why did you change your handle???? > Same sh.t different day he's definitely a troll.. LOL Signaturehttp://www.phantomplate.com/affiliatewiz/aw.aspx?A=1563&Task=Click > john ha scritto: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > he's definitely a troll.. > LOL No, I am a former Mitsu POS owner. And you're a spammer. What did you make for dinner, Andrea? Get back in the kitchen. John D. Truthinator ha scritto: >> john ha scritto: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > What did you make for dinner, Andrea? Get back in the kitchen. As more ignorant english-speaking people, you also ignore that Andrea - in Italy - is a male name, not female. Anyhow you not only are ignorant but also sexist. Your poor old Mitsu simply suicided after spending a life with you. If you don't like a link, simply don't follow it. If you don't like Mitsus, simply don't buy one. Mitsubishi really appreciates this. Signaturehttp://www.phantomplate.com/affiliatewiz/aw.aspx?A=1563&Task=Click > John D. Truthinator ha scritto: >>> john ha scritto: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > If you don't like Mitsus, simply don't buy one. Mitsubishi really > appreciates this. Andrea: In truth, I felt bad about this post all day. I was rude, and I apologize. My comments were inappropriate. That said, usenet should not be spammed by people offering license plate protectors. >>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Bhagat Gurtu why did you change your handle???? > Same sh.t different day Hey man! That person wasn't me - but I do agree with him wholeheartedly. Check the IP headers - that wise person isn't me!. >>>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Hey man! That person wasn't me - but I do agree with him wholeheartedly. > Check the IP headers - that wise person isn't me!. Thank you for the compliment. I see I am not the only one who has had issues with this POS brand. And for the record, after I sold my 98 after repeated failures, I stopped researching Mitsus. Maybe they have gotten better, I don't know. But when I see a post about the 98s, well, as one who has been there, I feel compelled to relate what I believe to be the most unsatisfactory auto experience of a life which has involved a dozen owned vehicles. People need to know the truth. I wish I did not have to bear it. >>>>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>>>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >People need to know the truth. I wish I did not have to bear it. That's just plain ignorant. That's like saying because one Aussie is a retard, the rest must be. You had one bad f.cking car. Get over it. >>>>>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>>>>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > That's just plain ignorant. That's like saying because one Aussie is a > retard, the rest must be. You had one bad f.cking car. Get over it. Here in Australia we have a lot of experience of Mitsushitty vehicles. We being the closest Western society to Japan have long been the subjects of many Japanese marketing experiments. Often, if a vehicle worked here it would then be sold elsewhere. The wide bodied adaptation of the Diamonte called the Magna was engineered here. Most Australians with discerning taste know this car as the Fagna/Cardigane. Without a doubt, the Mitsushitty brand occupies the lowest rung in the Japanese quality hierarchy. Even current model Mitsubishy stuff is crap. Vehicles built with licensed obsolete Mitsubishy 'technology' like the Malaysian Proton are also crap. Mitsushitty are known to take shortcuts in engineering, and use poor quality materials. Crank walk for God's sake - what a joke. Their automatic transmissions have the worst reliability record of any here. It seems that Mitsushitty are incapable of designing a reliable unit. Mitsushitty turbochargers have oil seal wear problems, the list goes on and on. On the roads here in Oz if one smells a car burning oil it is invariable an elderly Mazda, or more commonly any kind of Mitsubishi shite older than a 3 or 4 years. Both Japanese brands are sh.t. With any luck Mitsubishy will close down their plant here in Australia and retreat back to Japan soon. They are burning money because nobody here wants to buy their sh.t any more. >>>>>>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>>>>>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > wants to > buy their sh.t any more. Looks like Shitsu maintained their Aussie standards here in the U.S. by partnering with a then-fledgling plant somewhere in Illinois. Here, the 98s were built on a Neon platform and sold as poseur sporty cars with an arbitrary head scoop. Bottom line, they are nice looking vehicles which perform like what they were built like, a low-end, insubstantial piece of dung. The brakes are not balanced and wear very poorly. The engine is prone to catastrophic failure. Build quality is questionable at best. Sheet metal corrodes even with reasonable maintenance. Going back to the original poster's comments, there is no reason to throw good money after one of these pieces of sh.t. If you have enough money to put a the "biggest engine swap possible" into a car, do yourself a favor man, and realize that the car is about more than the engine you swap into it. Spend wisely and don't throw food money after bad. >>>>>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>>>>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > That's just plain ignorant. That's like saying because one Aussie is a > retard, the rest must be. You had one bad f.cking car. Get over it. Hey John, YOU spend 20K for a piece of sh.t and see if you get over it. >>>>>>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>>>>>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >Hey John, YOU spend 20K for a piece of sh.t and see if you get over it. I divorced a "piece of sh.t" 13 yrs ago, lost alot more than 20K and never regretted it. It's only money. > Hey John, YOU spend 20K for a piece of sh.t and see if you get over it. No car is perfect. I owned a AUDI that was a POS, a Nissan that was a POS, two Fords that were a POS, an AMC that was a POS. I have owned TWO Volvo's that were fine until they were off of warantee and then started to bleed me to death - POS. The best cars that I have owned were a diesel VW Jetta, 250K with no problems, and a Toyota T100, 150K only part replaced - a starter. I have owned three Mitsubishi's and have not had any problems with them. EVO's are regularly built to 600-800HP, not too many other four bangers that you can do that with. If you are taking on a hobbie of building cars you will lose money - but this goes with all manufactures. (except maybe old muscle cars, but that market is probably at its top right now) John, Based on the data points you've provided, I gather that either: A. You have incredibly bad luck with cars B. You trade your vehicles very frequently or are responsible for a fleet C. You drive a lot of miles over extremely rough and rugged terrain D. You don't properly maintain your cars I trust it is not "D" and if it is A, then I hope that your luck changes. Bob >> Hey John, YOU spend 20K for a piece of sh.t and see if you get over it. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > this goes with all manufactures. (except maybe old muscle cars, but that > market is probably at its top right now) > John, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bob Bob: Thank you for your simplistic and incredibly naive view of the world, but try adding another variable. E. I maintain my cars properly, including all scheduled and preventive maintenance. I am a private vehicle owner. I have had comparatively minor or no problems with, in order of ownership from age 19: Toyota Celica GT, 140,000 miles Ford Escort LX, 88,000 miles (lucky, I know) VW Passat GLS 89,000 miles VW Jetta GL, 139,000 miles Subaru Forester S, 110,000 miles The Mitsubishi started blowing parts under warranty, continued to blow them after warranty and died with 58K on its record. Furthermore, more than 600,000 98 Eclipses have been recalled or diagnosed with steering and other failures. They are pieces of sh.t. I know, you're not likely to be swayed by truth given your obvious bias, but it has to be put out there so thinking people can make educated decisions in the future. The 98 Eclipse is a Neon with snazzy design. The Neon is a piece of sh.t. The Eclipse is it's prettier but equally bad-charactered sister. >> John, >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > is a Neon with snazzy design. The Neon is a piece of sh.t. The Eclipse > is it's prettier but equally bad-charactered sister. Wrong Neon is Chryslers cost reduced hack of the DSM partnership. The 98 Eclipse was a Mitsubishi, DSM was dissolved in 95 - yes Mitsubishi had some recalls but so has my Toyota and my wifes Volvo. Sorry you got a lemon but it happens with ALL manufactures. You know what they say about opinions, they are like a.sholes, everyone has one and they all stink. My experience with Mitsubishis has been favorable, 81 Dodge colt - Mitsubishi - trouble free 65K before totaling 95 Eclipse - 2.0 GST bought used at 100K, I put 25 K on with no problems - sold to buy a cleaner one 97 Eclipse bought used a 110K so far I have 20 K on it no problems Sorry you got a lemon, if it left a bad taste in your mouth - don't buy another Mitsubishi. Check JD Power for reliability and owner experience. Some quick searches showed that your 98 Eclipse had better reliability ratings than VW and Chrysler as well as others. However, the reviews that I read, were either horror stories like you experienced or glowing stories of happy Mitsubishi owners, there seemed to be no middle ground. People who own the turbo GST models seem the most happy with them. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is - an opinion! > Wrong Neon is Chryslers cost reduced hack of the DSM partnership. The 98 > Eclipse was a Mitsubishi, DSM was dissolved in 95 - yes Mitsubishi had [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > You are entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is - an opinion! A fair and reasonable post, John. Sorry the lemon I bought drove me to rant so much.... it is the only recourse I have been left with. Ironically, if the OP had posted "99eclipse" or some variation, I would not have reacted so strongly. I checked JDP, Consumer reports and other sources before buying mine. Like the VW I mentioned, which has since had very poor reliability ratings but with which I have had no problems, I researched ahead of time and the model year turned out to be substandard. In the case of the catastrophic failures which doomed my beautiful black eclipse but could not be attributed to maintenance, it was enough to never buy and post truth about what I believe to be a very flawed model and likely brand. Good luck with your motoring. > John, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bob You forgot a couple other variables - age and marital status, some of the cars were my wifes. All cars were properly maintained, some of them were bought used. we drove 70 mile one way to work for 5 years so put a lot of miles on vehicles. >> John, >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >we drove 70 mile one way to work for 5 years so put a lot of miles on >vehicles. Then you also get people that buy a tuner, they start adding parts like their buddie did but with disastrously different results. Of course then it's the cars fault >>> John, >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > like their buddie did but with disastrously different results. Of > course then it's the cars fault LOL absolutely correct! The most common mistake is to add a large turbo and crank up the boost without monitoring your engine. When they blow the engine its all because the car is a POS.... >>> hi, just to cover the basics. i am gettin to really like cars, and >>> wanting [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Bhagat Gurtu why did you change your handle???? > Same sh.t different day Sorry to disappoint, but I am not the poster you referred to. Same sh.t different day sounds like the story of my 98 Eclipse. Blown engine despite proper maintenance, bad brakes, awful dealers, no warranty support. Sorry to disappoint, but Mitsu = POS. The only thing worse than a Korean car, in my opinion, is a piece of sh*t Mitsubishi which poses as a Japanese car but in fact was manufactured by a really god awful failing division of Chrysler somewhere in Illinois. As to later generations of Sh*tsubishis, well, maybe they're better than the 98s were, but the OP is stuck with a piece of junk and would be better off investing in the subprime mortgage market than sinking one red cent into the crapload that he already owns. |
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