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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / March 20082006 Eclipse Lousy Mileage
I'm getting about 17 mpg out of a 4 cylinder Eclipse. Any ideas? >I'm getting about 17 mpg out of a 4 cylinder Eclipse. Any ideas? Because it is a stinking Mitsubishi shitbox? I get better than that with my 01 v6 > I'm getting about 17 mpg out of a 4 cylinder Eclipse. Any ideas? > I'm getting about 17 mpg out of a 4 cylinder Eclipse. Any ideas? Could be a variety of things. Is the Check Engine Light on, and are there any ECU codes being output? Your fuel-air mixture is way off. Possibilities: 1. leaking injector is dribbling fuel all the time. 2. Dirty air cleaner. 3. Timing is off. 4. O2 sensor slow or failed 5. clogged Catalytic converter. 6. coolant temp sensor disconnected or failed. This signals the ECU to adjust the timing and mixture. 7. partial ECU failure (always in open-loop mode) 8. Assuming an automatic, is it changing gear correctly? eg to 4th OD, not stuck in 2nd gear Limp mode. You could try a) disconnecting the battery for 30 seconds to reset the ECU b) look for any vacuum hose air leaks (unlikely, this usually causes the car to run lean and hot) c) put some injector cleaner in the gas d) take it to the dealer for a tune up. Is it still under warranty?  Signatureregards Stewart DIBBS www.pixcl.com/lancerproject >Could be a variety of things. Is the Check Engine Light on, and are there >any ECU codes being output? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >8. Assuming an automatic, is it changing gear correctly? eg to 4th OD, not >stuck in 2nd gear Limp mode. >You could try >a) disconnecting the battery for 30 seconds to reset the ECU [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >d) take it to the dealer for a tune up. Is it still under warranty? All good sensible advice which can even be applied to Mitsubishi excrement. I don't agree so much with a dirty air filter because the ECU is measuring the amount of air going into the motor and so knows how much petrol to ejaculate. A dirty air filter will limit your maximum power though. He could also have dragging brakes. Anyway, the best solution would be to burn the f.cking heap of sh.t and get a proper car. > >Could be a variety of things. Is the Check Engine Light on, and are there > >any ECU codes being output? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Anyway, the best solution would be to burn the f.cking heap of sh.t > and get a proper car. Interesting idea, what is the proper car in your opinion? I had a TT GTO and an FTO - 3 litre and 2 litre V6 and fuel consumption was never that bad. I got on average about 25 and 30mpg... >> Anyway, the best solution would be to burn the f.cking heap of sh.t >> and get a proper car. > >Interesting idea, what is the proper car in your opinion? >I had a TT GTO and an FTO - 3 litre and 2 litre V6 and fuel >consumption was never that bad. I got on average about 25 and 30mpg... Almost anything which didn't wear the infamous triple anus logo would be a good start. > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:00:33 -0800 (PST), fast_cars_guy > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Almost anything which didn't wear the infamous triple anus logo would > be a good start. So, Morris Minor is your perfect car then... >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:00:33 -0800 (PST), fast_cars_guy > > So, Morris Minor is your perfect car then... Too luxurious.. Tata Nano is his goal.. provided he'll afford it.. >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:00:33 -0800 (PST), fast_cars_guy >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >So, Morris Minor is your perfect car then... Interesting that you mention Moggies. Not my perfect car by any means but they were built much better than Mitsushitties. You could even sit on the bonnet of one of them and have a beer without denting the metal work. The paintwork of those things didn't fade in the sun within 2 years either. At the time I got my license they were an easy car to tune and they were plentiful and cheap. The most common performance modification was to remove the moggy engine and replace it with a Holden 6 cylinder. With a set of 'widies' (widened wheels) and bigger brakes they flew like sh.t off a shovel. > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:19:59 -0800 (PST), fast_cars_guy > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > cylinder. With a set of 'widies' (widened wheels) and bigger brakes > they flew like sh.t off a shovel. I am sorry about you getting your license at the times when "moggy with Holden 6 cylinder and a set of 'widies'" was top of the range. I am more concerned with car performance and the ease of experimenting with it's parameters, it seems to me that for these purposes Mitsubishi are as good (if not better) than any other car. I did not have to "remove" my engine, because it already comes with V6, all I had to do was to play with little things like timing, supercharging, airflow, exhaust and I had as much fun as most... And it was cheap too, I did not buy it new, and these days you can get FTO in UK for about £2K and who cares about fading paint... >I am sorry about you getting your license at the times when "moggy >with Holden 6 cylinder and a set of 'widies'" was top of the range. They were not top of the range, but what a university student in the late 60's could afford ferchrisakes. >I am more concerned with car performance and the ease of experimenting >with it's parameters, it seems to me that for these purposes [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >And it was cheap too, I did not buy it new, and these days you can get >FTO in UK for about £2K and who cares about fading paint... If you are into cheap and nasty rice then Mitsushitty probably satisfies some people. The things have no class whatsoever. Almost any turbo car with EFI can be hacked to go faster. It doesn't take much skill to do that. [clip] > I am sorry about you getting your license at the times when "moggy > with Holden 6 cylinder and a set of 'widies'" was top of the range. interpretation anyone? > I am more concerned with car performance and the ease of experimenting > with it's parameters, it seems to me that for these purposes [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And it was cheap too, I did not buy it new, and these days you can get > FTO in UK for about £2K and who cares about fading paint... Maybe I'm stupid but I think a turbo charged 4 cylinder is the perfect balance for economy and performance. I have a '94 Eclipse 2.0L turbo that puts out about 250HP in a 2800 lbs car and gets me 30MPG per tank, even though I punch it often. The V6 is nice for its low end torque, but once 1st gear is done my MT FWD Eclipse 2.0L turbo reigns. SignatureGyz If a man is speaking in the middle of the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? > [clip] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > though I punch it often. The V6 is nice for its low end torque, but once > 1st gear is done my MT FWD Eclipse 2.0L turbo reigns. AGREE ! I am converting a 97 gst spyder to AWD, hope to squeeze about 350 hp out that little four banger. I was at about 270 hp before starting my modification and I still got about 28 mpg - I drive it hard! I would like to see anyone come up with another way of getting an AWD, 350 HP convertible for under $10K! >...The most common performance modification > was to remove the moggy engine and replace it with a Holden 6 > cylinder. With a set of 'widies' (widened wheels) and bigger brakes > they flew like sh.t off a shovel. Hmmm. Well, I grew up in Sydney, and my first car was a 56 Morris Minor Traveller. It went with my first girlfriend too. Ah, what memories ... but I digress. I would disagree that sticking in a Holden 6 (grey or red motor) was common. Far more common was replacing the A series engine with 1275 MG Midget or 1500, 1600 or 1800 B-series. I stuffed a 1600 MGA into mine and fitted the bigger Morris Major drum brakes. A mate had a 2 door sedan with an MGB 1800, and I guess you could say it "flew like sh.t off a shovel". The biggest problem was breaking axles and the occasional diff. Six cylinder? It simply would not fit unless you cut a BIG hole in the firewall (or stuck it out through the radiator) and did all sorts of unspeakable things elsewhere, like replacing the complete rear axle and suspension. The front suspension was pretty useless with the standard torsion bars and all the extra weight. The registration authorities could and did refuse to register such a vehicle. While I was in the army I knew a guy who built a complete steel chassis, fitted a Holden front and rear end, and dropped the 4 door sedan on the top. Driver foot and leg space was "cramped". THIS was registered only because of the chassis. There was also a case near where I lived where a Ford sidevalve V8 was put in (with standard drum brakes no less...), but the driver was stopped for speeding (no, really!) and the vehicle was instantly issued with a no-drive defect notice and unregistered. regards Stewart DIBBS www.pixcl.com/lancerproject >I would disagree that sticking in a Holden 6 (grey or red motor) was common. >Far more common was replacing the A series engine with 1275 MG Midget or >1500, 1600 or 1800 B-series. I stuffed a 1600 MGA into mine and fitted the >bigger Morris Major drum brakes. A mate had a 2 door sedan with an MGB 1800, >and I guess you could say it "flew like sh.t off a shovel". The biggest >problem was breaking axles and the occasional diff. That was more common I agree. The Morris driveline was not robust. >Six cylinder? It simply would not fit unless you cut a BIG hole in the >firewall (or stuck it out through the radiator) and did all sorts of >unspeakable things elsewhere, like replacing the complete rear axle and >suspension. The front suspension was pretty useless with the standard >torsion bars and all the extra weight. The registration authorities could >and did refuse to register such a vehicle. Yep, the old grey motor with an intrusion into the cabin. There were quite a few kicking around my part of Sydney. The registration authorities never got to see seriously modified cars in those days, only if you were stupid enough to try to get mods approved or a cop decided to defect a car. >While I was in the army I knew a guy who built a complete steel chassis, >fitted a Holden front and rear end, and dropped the 4 door sedan on the top. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >stopped for speeding (no, really!) and the vehicle was instantly issued with >a no-drive defect notice and unregistered. There was some crazy sh.t driving around before the authorities made road safety a big business. Today's rice boys with their pathetic shiny BOVs, neons and crap don't know what they missed. A Ford sidevalve V8 would probably make less power than a modern NA 4 cylinder engine. They sounded great though. >> I would disagree that sticking in a Holden 6 (grey or red motor) was common. >> Far more common was replacing the A series engine with 1275 MG Midget or [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > A Ford sidevalve V8 would probably make less power than a modern NA 4 > cylinder engine. They sounded great though. Hey there Mr. Bat Grunt. Spreading your usual load BS I see. Regarding Fords, this is one of the few times I would agree with you. Anything Ford=POS. For example, a Mustang is a POS regardless of the amount of HP. I say this being a former Ford Mustang owner. If there is one thing in life that I hope never to do it is to own another crappy Ford. I love my '94 Mitsubishi Eclipse! 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