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Car Forum / Mitsubishi Cars / May 2004

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STP Gas Treatment ok for turbos?

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Husker - 19 May 2004 04:44 GMT
Ive got a 99 eclipse GST that I have only 1 payment left on (woohoo!). It starts hard on cold mornings, and a friend
suggested I use STP gas treatment. I got a bottle of the concentrated stuff, is it safe to use for my turbo? will it hurt the
engine?
Nobody U. Know - 19 May 2004 12:48 GMT
While cleaning the injectors may help, I'd suggest you also replace the fuel
filter. If that doesn't remedy the situation, clean the throttle body.

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> Ive got a 99 eclipse GST that I have only 1 payment left on (woohoo!). It starts hard on cold mornings, and a friend
> suggested I use STP gas treatment. I got a bottle of the concentrated stuff, is it safe to use for my turbo? will it hurt the
> engine?
simpleton - 19 May 2004 21:25 GMT
yep and find out about crankwalk too...you'll need to know.
> While cleaning the injectors may help, I'd suggest you also replace the fuel
> filter. If that doesn't remedy the situation, clean the throttle body.
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> stuff, is it safe to use for my turbo? will it hurt the
> > engine?
Nobody U. Know - 20 May 2004 02:11 GMT
Crank walk is very rare. Judging by your totally unrelated "crank walk"
statement, I assume you are a 2k+ Eclipse owner. The symptoms aren't even
similar.

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> yep and find out about crankwalk too...you'll need to know.
simpleton - 20 May 2004 22:44 GMT
"Crank walk is very rare."

tell that to the guys in the 1gina2g yahoo group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSM1gina2g/     there are 600 guys on that
list who might wish to argue.
my buddy ted, who owns a japanese import repair shop is doing two eclipse
motors a week. he might also disagree with the notion that crank thrust
failures are rare (mitsu is making him wealthy).
it's really google that tells the tale though, with 1,410 hits for
"crankwalk".  most everything is regarding the 2G eclipse.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=crankwalk
you must be new, no i don't drive a 3G.  i've been driving awd dsm's for 11
years.  the present car is a '97 gsx  6 bolt stroker that's supposed to be
400whp.
my post stands as written. if you own a 2G you need to be aware of the issue
and it's symptoms. i have seen a lot of posts from people who have spent a
ton of money trying to get their "clutch" fixed only to find that they've
wasted their money and that their motor is shot.
my end play was .015"  what's yours?

> Crank walk is very rare. Judging by your totally unrelated "crank walk"
> statement, I assume you are a 2k+ Eclipse owner. The symptoms aren't even
> similar.
>
> > yep and find out about crankwalk too...you'll need to know.
Nobody U. Know - 21 May 2004 01:15 GMT
Yet another person that sees a broken harmonic balancer and calls it crank
walk. Out of dozens of CW cases, only 1 was real..and that was on a poorly
maintained engine. The rest had busted crank wheel pulleys and didn't under
stand how to really measure crank play.

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> "Crank walk is very rare."
>
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> >
> > > yep and find out about crankwalk too...you'll need to know.
simpleton - 21 May 2004 01:52 GMT
look into the light and be saved.....
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech.asp
it's not like we made this sh.t up as some sort of adolescent hoax designed
to sully the sterling reputation  mitsu enjoys.

go measure your end play and report back to the group.
.010" is the limit.
Nobody U. Know - 21 May 2004 02:02 GMT
Dear god...how many idiots quote this sh.t like it's common. You are wrong.
CW, which is a DSM term, happens to every vehicle ever made. Most spin a
bearing before they notice it. It's the same thing, although some see oil
out their rear or main seal first. Give me the names of 5 people you know,
personally, with CW. You can't do it.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Benjamin Franklin

Thank you for the Patriot Act you cowards.
> look into the light and be saved.....
> http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech.asp
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> go measure your end play and report back to the group.
> .010" is the limit.
simpleton - 21 May 2004 22:22 GMT
i don't personally know any other dsm owners. i know a great number of
people though internet groups.
why don't you join the DSM 1Gina2G yahoo group.
you could study the archives and be ready when your seven bolt pukes. every
motor has thrust failure? that means metal to metal and loss of the bearing.
that only happens when the oiling system fails.
what's your oil pressure at idle?
what is your end play?
do you have a ticking noise at the front of your motor?

> Dear god...how many idiots quote this sh.t like it's common. You are wrong.
> CW, which is a DSM term, happens to every vehicle ever made. Most spin a
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> > go measure your end play and report back to the group.
> > .010" is the limit.
 
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