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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Altima / March 2005

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1999 Nissan Altiama Starting Problem

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Jag1 - 19 Feb 2005 22:55 GMT
Hi,

I have a problem starting the car, couple of months from now. If I wont
start the car for one day it wont start next day and need to jump start
the car then it starts fine with out any issues. basically battery is
draining out due to some reasopm, I checked the battery and is good.

Any help is appreciated.
Remco - 19 Feb 2005 23:36 GMT
Your car is charging, right? Put a multimeter set to volts across the
battery. With the car running, you should see about 14V.

First I'd make sure that the trunk light is indeed off. Maybe the
switch that controls that light is bad. I've seen this once and you
don't usually notice it, since the trunk is closed.

Set the multimeter to current. Put it in series with the rest of the
car by disconnecting the red battery lead and tying the + of the meter
to the battery + (perhaps get a spare battery connector so you can do
this conceniently or have someone hold the wires together) and the - to
the red battery lead. Don't start the car or turn anything on as this
willblow the fuse internal to the multimeter.
You should see a minimal current drain -- a couple of milli Amps.

If you see significant current drain, pull one fuse at a time to
isolate what draws this amount of current.

Also, if you've drained your battery down several times it will
significantly decrease the life of the battery. It may look ok, but
don't exclude the possibility of having a bad battery if you don't see
any current drain. It could still be that.

Let us know how you make out.

Hope this is useful.
Remco
Jag1 - 20 Feb 2005 00:50 GMT
Hi Remco,

Thanks for the reply,

I have checked the battery with the multimeter and while running it shows
14 V and tho shows good at of the Meineke car care center.

I also checked the trunk light after closing by
folding the back seat and its off.

Only thing I did'nt check is draining the battery, would you suggest to
take the car to any electrical shop and have them check.

Thanks again
Jag
Remco - 20 Feb 2005 01:24 GMT
It depends on how comfortable you are debugging electrical problems.
You can't get into too much trouble pulling fuses to determine where it
is coming from. If I were you, try to do the initial debug. This way,
when you bring it to a repair shop, you'll know when they are trying to
pull one over on you.

You may find that, after all fuses have been pulled, the current drain
is still abnormal. You can pull fuseable links as well -- they are in
the under the hood fusebox and look like large fuses.
See if pulling the large 75A fuseable link drops the current to normal.

If that happens, your problem is probably the alternator:  It charges
fine as you can see, so that part is not the problem.
Internally they have diodes inside - Besides changing the AC voltage
alternator makes into DC, these diodes also make sure that the current
does not find a way from the battery back to ground when the car is
turned off.  I suspect one of these diodes shorted.

Let us know how you are doing as it might help someone else with
similar problems.
Remco
madoktor1 - 01 Mar 2005 22:49 GMT
I have a similar problem. G/F wrecked 99 Altima and it started once after
wreck, drove it home, and hasn't started since. Battery is good and
everything is gettng juice, battery even starts all other vehicles.
Checked fuses in car and under hood. Nothing seems bad. Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance.
remco - 01 Mar 2005 23:07 GMT
> I have a similar problem. G/F wrecked 99 Altima and it started once after
> wreck, drove it home, and hasn't started since. Battery is good and
> everything is gettng juice, battery even starts all other vehicles.
> Checked fuses in car and under hood. Nothing seems bad. Any other ideas?
> Thanks in advance.

It is similar in the sense that the car doesn't even turn over? Or it turns
over but does not start?
madoktor1 - 01 Mar 2005 23:18 GMT
It doesn't even turn over. It acts just like a dead battery but it's not.
remco - 02 Mar 2005 00:15 GMT
> It doesn't even turn over. It acts just like a dead battery but it's not.

Stick or automatic?
When you turn the ignition key, do you hear a farly loud 'click' under the
hood? If so, most likely your starter is bad or the fat wire to the starter
is not making good contact. If not, do you see any of your dash lights turn
on? If you do see see dash lights but nothing happens when your go to start,
make sure a fuseable link under the hood's fuse box is not blown (it might
be marked "B"). Also make sure the car is not in gear (stick has to have
clutch in).
madoktor1 - 02 Mar 2005 00:49 GMT
The fuseable links are good. Dash lights come on. It's an automatic and
after wreck shifter won't go into low position. This is the only thing I
have concluded(neutral safety switch)or starter problems.
remco - 02 Mar 2005 01:44 GMT
> The fuseable links are good. Dash lights come on. It's an automatic and
> after wreck shifter won't go into low position. This is the only thing I
> have concluded(neutral safety switch)or starter problems.

The fuseable links are separate from the dash lights so you may want to
check them.

Yeah, that's what I am thinking as well. I take it you don't even hear the
'click' then?
To be sure it isn't the starter, put a voltmeter across the thinner wire
(black/yellow my schematic says) and ground. If you don't see 12V there,
check when you are starting, trace the black/yellow wire back to the
inhibitor switch (on the shift stick assembly). The common side of that
switch goes to a potential present theft relay, which in turn goes to the
ignition switch.

If I had to guess, it is probably that inhibitor switch since you are
already having problems getting it to low.
You could just short that switch to see if it starts. (just be careful to
never start it in gear).

Let us know how you make out.
Remco
madoktor1 - 02 Mar 2005 02:14 GMT
Thanks for all your help. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
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