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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Altima / September 2007

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passenger side axle slipped from bearing

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Bill - 23 Sep 2007 02:00 GMT
I was changing the shocks.  I failed to support the hub properly.  I
started putting in the finished passenger side strut and the axle
seems extended with the boot stretched at the engine mounted bearing.
It's too dark to work so tomorrow I plan to detach the control arm and
punch the spline axle out of the hub then try to work it around until
it finds its home in the bearing.  I was wondering if it might be a
better approach to start the engine and put it in reverse and hope to
catch the spline for the bearing.  I welcome suggestions.  Thanks.

Bill
Gordon - 23 Sep 2007 06:04 GMT
Bill <wtjohnston@gmail.com> wrote in news:1190509205.539207.318910
@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

> I was changing the shocks.  I failed to support the hub properly.  I
> started putting in the finished passenger side strut and the axle
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>
> Bill

You have pulled apart the inner CV joint.It is a sliding joint and
can be pulled apart quite easy (as you have found out).
The proper way to repair this is to remove the shaft completely
and reasemble it on the bench. You can't just try to push it back
together.  THere are ball bearings that have fallen out of their
races that have to be re-inserted properly.

A few tips about drawing out the half shaft.  
1) drain about a quart of trany fluid to get the fluid level
below the shaft opening.
2) You are gonna need a big pry bar to pop the shaft loose from
the engine.  My book says to use a big screwdriver.  HA!  I needed
a three foot crow bar.
3) Be carefull that you don't dammage the rubber seal when you draw
out the shaft. Don't drag the splines on it.
4) Don't move anything while the shaft is out.  The pinnion gear
that engages the splined end of the half shaft is just hanging in
the teeth of the differential gears.  Move anything in the tranny
and the pinnon drops into the tranny. Or it gets mis-alligned and
you can't reinsert the shaft.
5) When re-inserting the shaft use a bit of grease on the splines
and tranny fluid on the seal area to make things go together easy.

PS: Don't ya just hate it when things like this happen.
Bill - 25 Sep 2007 10:50 GMT
> Bill <wtjohns...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1190509205.539207.318910
> @y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
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>
> PS: Don't ya just hate it when things like this happen.

Don't try this at home, but...what worked is this:  I could only get
one bolt into the lower strut.  The upper bolt would go as the axle
was extended since it had come apart in the bearing attached to the
engine.  Putting support under the hub so the axle was level with the
bearing and with the other side of the car on a jackstand as well, I
put the car first in forward then in reverse.  While in reverse the
errant hub was spinning.  Putting on the brakes I heard a loud Wham!
the axle popped back in when I put on the brakes.  From there all when
well.

Bill
AS - 23 Sep 2007 14:25 GMT
Wow, this sounds scary.

What year is your car? MT or AT?

With respect to the inner joint, don't these have a ring that prevents
the tripod bearings from coming out completely?  Most of the ones i have
seen have this.  The joint can extend alot before it actually comes out
of its place.  In the past, the only thing I needed was to raise the
outer half shaft and push it in, no need to disassemble.

With respect to the tranny gears, I have not seen a design such as this
in which things can just fall into the tranny.  I have seen a few in
which two gears are rotated together by the shaft and it may require
rotating the shaft while introducing it, to align both gear's splines.

In any case, best of luck!

> I was changing the shocks.  I failed to support the hub properly.  I
> started putting in the finished passenger side strut and the axle
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>
> Bill
Gordon - 24 Sep 2007 05:05 GMT
> Wow, this sounds scary.
>
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> of its place.  In the past, the only thing I needed was to raise the
> outer half shaft and push it in, no need to disassemble.

MAybe.  When I replaced the HAlf Shaft on my Altima I was bombarded
with warnings about not pulling the inner bearing apart.

> With respect to the tranny gears, I have not seen a design such as this
> in which things can just fall into the tranny.  I have seen a few in
> which two gears are rotated together by the shaft and it may require
> rotating the shaft while introducing it, to align both gear's splines.

Perhaps I was being too parinoid.  My Nissan 310 had warnings about
the pinnion falling into the tranny while the half shaft was out.
I just natrally extrapolated that to my Altima.

> In any case, best of luck!
>
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>> Bill
AS - 24 Sep 2007 21:47 GMT
You are right, better safe than sorry.

>>Wow, this sounds scary.
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>>>Bill
 
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