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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Altima / November 2003

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Nissan Service Manual - Is it worth it ?

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Rath.Yelandur - 12 Oct 2003 16:01 GMT
I like to fix car problems as for as possible myself.

My experience, When you take the car to a mechanic,  He will fix one problem
but other problems keep developing every couple of months.

I have bought CHILTON's 'NISSAN 240xSX' Car repair manual.   They cover lot
of areas, but nothing in depth.

Question:  Nissan Representatvies have said - It is possible to order Car
service manual from NISSAN and the cost will be around $80-$100.

Is it worth spending the money ?
What I am looking for is not "Dummy's guide to CAR REPAIR".

What I would love to have is a CAR BIBLE.
If they designed the car and made it - Coming with good service manuals for
the public ....

Any comments / Personal experiences ?
Clive - 12 Oct 2003 18:08 GMT
>I like to fix car problems as for as possible myself.
>
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>Any comments / Personal experiences ?

When I bought my Nissan Almera I also got at the same time, the complete
manufacturers manual on a CD ROM, it cost me 70UKP.   It covers all
versions of the Almera to date, petrol and diesel, right down to the
tightening torque for all the bolts, complete engine strip downs etc.
Beware however that with faults it gives fault codes when accessed by a
specialised Nissan computer.
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Clive

WindsorFox[SS] - 12 Oct 2003 22:53 GMT
> I like to fix car problems as for as possible myself.
>
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>
> Any comments / Personal experiences ?

Lucky you, the manual for my Nissan is over $300.
Peter Hill - 12 Oct 2003 23:24 GMT
>I like to fix car problems as for as possible myself.
>
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>
>Any comments / Personal experiences ?

If you open Bill's reply to the message above re 240SX power window
stuck 1/2 way down you can download a scanned copy of the RS13 or S14
manual in PDF format.  Then you can see a what a genuine Nissan
workshop looks like.  Makes it easy to decide if you need the genuine
manual with no missing / misaligned pages and the correct engine and
ECCS diagnostics for your car.  Or buy a JDM turbo front cut and put
the right engine in your car.

Check on Ebay - manuals and CD's turn up there but they will be pulled
real quick if they are pirate.

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larrymoencurly - 14 Oct 2003 09:20 GMT
> I have bought CHILTON's 'NISSAN 240xSX' Car repair manual.  
> They cover lot of areas, but nothing in depth.
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>
> What I would love to have is a CAR BIBLE.

$80-100 seems like a bargain because Chilton's and Haynes are not only
much less complete, but factory manuals seem to be easier for
beginners like me to understand.  Also they have clear photos and
diagrams that apply specifically for your version of the vehicle
rather than general information for all versions of a model made over
a ten-year period.  For example, the wiring diagram included in the
Haynes Nissan truck manual shows only the NAP-Z ignition for 4-cyl
engines, with two sparkplugs per cylinder, even for 1997, when a
completely different ignition with just a single plug/cyl was used.

Is $80-100 for all the manuals?  Some companies have separate manuals
for mechanical, electrical, and body, so if you want information about
the brakes and the emissions/computer systems you need to buy two
books.
C - 15 Oct 2003 03:58 GMT
I bought mine on CD-ROM for about $70.00.  Seems to be a good investment
since it goes into a lot of things the Chilton's/Haynes manuals don't.

Chris
D - 16 Oct 2003 12:59 GMT
It is a very good idea.  U could go by the Nissan dealer to take
a look at the manual before you buy.  I have seem the dealer manual on
disk for about 50 dollars(don't remember where).
darkelf - 03 Nov 2003 22:24 GMT
It's worth it.  I have compared the Nissan service manuals with the Haynes
service manuals for a Nissan Pulsar and the diffeence is just huge.  Nissan
had twice the coverage of Haynes.  Twice the price seems still good value.

> > I have bought CHILTON's 'NISSAN 240xSX' Car repair manual.
> > They cover lot of areas, but nothing in depth.
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> the brakes and the emissions/computer systems you need to buy two
> books.
WindsorFox[SS] - 04 Nov 2003 00:12 GMT
> It's worth it.  I have compared the Nissan service manuals with the Haynes
> service manuals for a Nissan Pulsar and the diffeence is just huge.  Nissan
> had twice the coverage of Haynes.  Twice the price seems still good value.

  I really do not want to pay over $300 to learn how to replace the
light bulbs in my Murano.
Bill Schnakenberg - 04 Nov 2003 01:20 GMT
>> It's worth it.  I have compared the Nissan service manuals with the
>> Haynes
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>   I really do not want to pay over $300 to learn how to replace the
> light bulbs in my Murano.

You don't have to. The User manual tells you how to replace a light bulb.
WindsorFox[SS] - 04 Nov 2003 05:48 GMT
>>> It's worth it.  I have compared the Nissan service manuals with the
>>> Haynes
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> You don't have to. The User manual tells you how to replace a light bulb.

In my user manual it says "For replacement of exterior bulbs, see
your Nissan Dealer." Now unless you're reading a page I didn't find.
darkelf - 04 Nov 2003 01:39 GMT
> > It's worth it.  I have compared the Nissan service manuals with the Haynes
> > service manuals for a Nissan Pulsar and the diffeence is just huge.  Nissan
> > had twice the coverage of Haynes.  Twice the price seems still good value.
>
>    I really do not want to pay over $300 to learn how to replace the
> light bulbs in my Murano.

Hey, if you needed the manuals for changing bulbs then I'd be very worried.
I just used them to help me through an engine swap.
WindsorFox[SS] - 04 Nov 2003 05:51 GMT
> Hey, if you needed the manuals for changing bulbs then I'd be very worried.
> I just used them to help me through an engine swap.

 Have you ever looked at a 2003 Murano or Altima point blank? Have
you looked for a way to get to the tail and stop bulbs or the turn
bulbs in the front? I didn't think so...
darkelf - 04 Nov 2003 12:33 GMT
> > Hey, if you needed the manuals for changing bulbs then I'd be very worried.
> > I just used them to help me through an engine swap.
>
>   Have you ever looked at a 2003 Murano or Altima point blank? Have
> you looked for a way to get to the tail and stop bulbs or the turn
> bulbs in the front? I didn't think so...

Well that would be difficult, there being no Altimas or Muranos in
Australia. but other Nissan, no problems.  What is so tricky about those
models?
Steve Manifold - 11 Nov 2003 14:10 GMT
> > Hey, if you needed the manuals for changing bulbs then I'd be very worried.
> > I just used them to help me through an engine swap.
>
>   Have you ever looked at a 2003 Murano or Altima point blank? Have
> you looked for a way to get to the tail and stop bulbs or the turn
> bulbs in the front? I didn't think so...

Well, you just proved that the FSM is worth having.
WindsorFox[SS] - 12 Nov 2003 01:57 GMT
>>>Hey, if you needed the manuals for changing bulbs then I'd be very
>
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>
> Well, you just proved that the FSM is worth having.

  Yes, but for over $300 it won't be happening anytime soon.
Peter O - 14 Nov 2003 20:28 GMT
The right manual by a specialist publisher such as Haines will be of great
benefit.

There may be others & they may be as good keep asking & check with your
local car club.

Make the investment & buy any specialist tools which are reasonable cost.

Pete

> I like to fix car problems as for as possible myself.
>
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>
> Any comments / Personal experiences ?
Alora  Duncan - 16 Nov 2003 08:45 GMT
> Make the investment & buy any specialist tools which are reasonable cost.

The factory shop manual ships with every Infiniti Q45 (as far as I know).

The only problem is the FSM is wrong sometimes, for example, for a fuel pump
or fuel pump control unit burnout, it seems we're better off going to NICO
& Yahoo to speak with the online mechanics than to religiously follow the
overly diagnostic procedures in the FSM.

FSM: http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/infiniti
Nissan/Infiniti car owners: http://nissaninfiniticlub.net
Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infinitiownersclub

If you follow the FSM, you'll end up replacing the fuel pump control unit
and leaving the working fuel pump; whereas the correct repair is to replace
the working fuel pump & resolder & reinforce the fuel pump control unit #4
ground wire to the fuel pump control unit connector. It's the opposite of
what the FSM recommends that worked for me.

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