Car gets terrible mileage in town. After being run it smells of raw
gas and starts hard. Can not see any evidence of a fuel leak. Any
ideas as to what the problem might be?
Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com
hmmmm , here we go again gang.
What could it be ??
A rich running condition ?
What are the signs of an overly rich mixture condition besides poor gas
mileage ?
Remember this is an old 810 series maxima with the L24 engine (in line 6
cylinder)
> Car gets terrible mileage in town. After being run it smells of raw
> gas and starts hard. Can not see any evidence of a fuel leak. Any
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> Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
> http://liondogmusic.com
NissTech - 11 Jun 2004 01:02 GMT
> hmmmm , here we go again gang.
>
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> > http://liondogmusic.com
Ryan - 11 Jun 2004 04:31 GMT
> What could it be ??
>
> A rich running condition ?
>
> What are the signs of an overly rich mixture condition besides poor gas
> mileage ?
Bad O2 sensor(s)
Bad fuel injector(s)
Overcooling engine (i.e., thermostat stuck open during cooler weather).
> Remember this is an old 810 series maxima with the L24 engine (in line 6
> cylinder)
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> > Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
> > http://liondogmusic.com
Ryan
'93 Maxima GXE
Nirav J. Modi - 11 Jun 2004 18:44 GMT
> hmmmm , here we go again gang.
>
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> Remember this is an old 810 series maxima with the L24 engine (in line 6
> cylinder)
I'm not familar with the L24 engine... but here goes:
Signs of an overly rich mixture:
1) Carbon fouled spark plugs (electrode and tip)
2) Smell of raw fuel in the exhaust (possible black/grey smoke from exhaust?)
3) Possible long-term side effect includes a plugged catalytic converter
Possible causes:
1) O2 sensors
2) Bad Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor
3) As already suggested - stuck open thermostat - car always running "cool"...
4) Leaky injectors
Nirav wins , Good answers man.( you wouldn't be looking for a technicians
job would you ? ;- )) )
Keep up the good work
The answer to this cars running conditions lies within Nirav's post.
He has their signs and their possible causes listed, one of them is the
answer, it is now up to the owner to do a little diagnosis and figure out
what may be causing it .
> Car gets terrible mileage in town. After being run it smells of raw
> gas and starts hard. Can not see any evidence of a fuel leak. Any
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> Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
> http://liondogmusic.com
Ryan - 12 Jun 2004 04:17 GMT
NissTech, have you checked the Seattle weather forecast recently??
> Nirav wins , Good answers man.( you wouldn't be looking for a technicians
> job would you ? ;- )) )
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Steve T - 12 Jun 2004 07:38 GMT
> Nirav wins , Good answers man.( you wouldn't be looking for a technicians
> job would you ? ;- )) )
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> answer, it is now up to the owner to do a little diagnosis and figure out
> what may be causing it .
Actually the most likely problem is an air flow meter issue on one of those
models.

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NissTech - 16 Jun 2004 23:35 GMT
I think I would rather check out other things like a head temp sensor and
the thermotime switch which costs about 40 bucks rather than going straight
for the heart and condemning a 500 dollar part that may not be bad at all.
> > Nirav wins , Good answers man.( you wouldn't be looking for a technicians
> > job would you ? ;- )) )
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> Actually the most likely problem is an air flow meter issue on one of those
> models.
Steve T - 17 Jun 2004 03:03 GMT
> I think I would rather check out other things like a head temp sensor and
> the thermotime switch which costs about 40 bucks rather than going
> straight for the heart and condemning a 500 dollar part that may not be
> bad at all.
Since those AF meters are easily adjustable, why replace it? BTW I've never
seen a bad thermo time switch in 20 years of working on L28 engines and if
the temp sensor on those models dies, it won't even start. 90% of the time
it's something with the AF meter on those old inline sixes.

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Nirav J. Modi - 14 Jun 2004 16:53 GMT
> Nirav wins , Good answers man.( you wouldn't be looking for a technicians
> job would you ? ;- )) )
>
> Keep up the good work
Thanks for the compliment Nisstech ... any openings in the midwest? ;)
Nirav
NissTech - 15 Jun 2004 01:31 GMT
don't know about the midwest but down south ( Florida, Georgia, Alabama) has
a good concentration of Nissan/Infinity
dealerships, and they are always looking for good young/or not so young
technicians that can think about a customers concern and diagnose it
properly
> > Nirav wins , Good answers man.( you wouldn't be looking for a technicians
> > job would you ? ;- )) )
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> Nirav