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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / September 2004'97 Maxima No Crank / No Start
Any futher ideas/leads would be much appreciated... I have followed Trends on similar problem (No Crank), and followed the Haynes Manuel. I must be overlooking something. I've copied this list from a different post: - discharged battery (dim headlights with engine off)...Checked @ Autozone - weak battery (check voltage at terminals while cranking)..."" - loose or dirty battery terminal connections at the battery...Cleaned - loose or dirty battery-to-body ground connection...Cleaned - loose or dirty battery-to-engine block connection...Cleaned - bad ignition switch...Replaced - Used - bad clutch safety switch (5-speed)...Doesn't apply - Automatic - bad neutral safety switch (automatic)...Replaced - Used - bad inhibitor relay...Checked with Ohmeter - bad solenoid...Checked @ Autozone - bad starter..."" In addition to the above: - Pulled & checked all fuses - Flipped around around all like kind relays in engine compartment - Made sure the engine wasn't seized - (Haynes suggests in rare cases it can be) A couple of question/concerns: - Could it be the alternator, or would failure to jump-start eliminate this possibility? - Does Anti-theft system have more than just the relay in the passanger side engine compartment? - There is a metal component mounted to the wheelwell of the driver side, & behind the air cleaner housing that heated up during attempts to crank. I can't find out what that part is... anyone know? - Anything else I might have missed? Any info/ideas would help thanks, Mike I am not sure I understand. Does the starter turn the engine, but it does not startup? Or do you just get NOTHING when you turn the key to the "start" position? If it is the latter do you even hear a click or anything? do the dash lights dim when you turn the key to the start position? Please give me more details,(on what happens when the key is turned to the start position) and I'll try to help. I have had several no start problems......and fixed them, I still drive the car! Bitsbucket > Any futher ideas/leads would be much appreciated... > I have followed Trends on similar problem (No Crank), and followed the [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Any info/ideas would help thanks, > Mike Bitsbucket, The starter isn't turning at all, however it did work dismounted from the car. The lights don't dim (all dash lights,window,locks & fuel pump have juice), and I can hear a single click from under the dash when the key is in the start position. I was able to get the car to crank (but not start) in a failing attempt to bypass the inhibitor relay, I blew a fuse in the process. Thinking if I can get it to crank, the relay might be the culpret, but I replaced it today & still no dice. I also adjusted the inhibitor switch on the transmition per Haynes repair book. I still can't get it to crank & I'm running out of ideas. What do you think? Thanks for any help. Have you replaced the starter? Maximas do really weird crap when the starter goes, I just had to put one on my 96SE and the symptoms were very much like yours, you could not jump start it, nothing happened when the key was turned, acted just like a dead battery,(so we replaced it first) then, new starter and all was back to normal. Make SURE to get a Nissan starter yea I know, they are big bucks but the AutoZone and Advance auto parts rebuilds SUX, you may go through 2,3, or 4 to get one that works OK, if you want to take that chance it's up to you. (I just don't like doing the same work over and over) Everyone here raves about using ALL Nissan parts, like oil filters etc, but I do not, I have over 120K on both my Maximas and they are in great shape. BUT when it comes to starters and alternators, go with Nissan, you won't be sorry. I thought maybe that the starter was turning the engine, but that the engine was not starting, I have had LOTS of experience with that... Let me know what happens. I put my money on a bad starter, hell, you have eliminated everything else! I did see a freak thing one time, even though the lights worked, horn everything, when you turned the key all you got was a click, like you are getting, it turned out to be the positive cable! it was one of those that had the lead head cast to the end of the cable and when you tried to draw allot of current it broke the connection, low current draw (light etc) would not...I pulled the lead battery connector right off with a slight tug and it was all green corrosion inside, replaced the battery connector and it worked fine,,,,,might be worth a look, have you checked the fusible link? could be that it is doing something similar. You can have voltage, but high current draw will sometimes break a weak connection..Hope all this rambling makes some sense.. Good Luck, Bitsbucket > Bitsbucket, > The starter isn't turning at all, however it did work dismounted [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks for any help. Bitsbucket/Group, I finally got frustrated enough to tow my car to the dealership to have them diagnose the problem because at this point I was baffled. On the first phone call he told me the starter was bad and quoted me something like $350 AND if it was not a Nissan starter on the car, and additional $60 core charge. !What differnace does that make, a core is a core! Anyway I explained to him that it wasn't a bad starter because it worked dismounted. The next phone call was that the ignition switch was bad "nope, I've replaced that too" and explained everything I had done at that point. Now to the conclusion of the lock cylinder, it wasn't turning the switch all the way to the start position. Then finally everthing made sense. I ended up paying them $38 to diagnose, I'll pick up a used set w/key for $50 & make it a project this weekend. Untill then I just turn the switch by hand with the key in the ignition of course. In researching the replacement of the lock cylinder I have a few open questions. Are there any tips/tricks to pulling the wheel other that disabling and using extreme caution with the SRS Sytem? Are the shear-head bolts on the column mount nessesary or simply an anti-theft feature? Thanks to all who take the time to reply & hope this tread might save someone the hassle with bad starter like symptoms. I've replaced the ignition locks on 2 Sentras (93, 95, the keys were too worn, & no code) I got a complete key set from Nissan for $100-$200 from Courtesy Nissan (all locks, set of keys & code). I drilled out the 1st one from the top (through screw head), the second from the side (I think that was easier). The shear off bolts are for security. It was pretty easy. (both had air bags) I did not have to pull the steering wheel, just the top & bottom covers and the dash (and steel panel) under the steering wheel to get the covers off. The ignition key/switch came with the steel collar, shear bolts, ignition switch, and wires. This was all for a Sentra, Maxima may be different... Gary K > Bitsbucket/Group, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Thanks to all who take the time to reply & hope this tread might save > someone the hassle with bad starter like symptoms. Thanks for the input! I've examined the project a little further & it looks like a breeze. Mike |
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