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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / October 2004

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VQ35DE in 4th gen????

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Bitsbucket - 21 Aug 2004 18:26 GMT
Can this be done? Will it bolt up to the existing tranny? How much
fabrication would be involved?anyone have any experience doing this? With
the extra 60 HP on tap with a REDUCED weight it SEEMS like a good idea. So
shoot holes in it...I'm ready! :-)
I found a cheap new engine and just wondered if it could be done fairly
easily, Thanks
Bitsbucket
Codifus - 21 Aug 2004 22:28 GMT
> Can this be done? Will it bolt up to the existing tranny? How much
> fabrication would be involved?anyone have any experience doing this? With
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Reduced weight? the VQ30 was already all aluminum, and Nissan's not in
the market for using titanium parts in it's motor. That's Porsche
territory. In other words, $$$$$$$$$$. So, how does the VQ35 wind up
weighing less than the VQ30?

CD
filesiteguy - 21 Aug 2004 23:55 GMT
>Reduced weight? the VQ30 was already all aluminum, and Nissan's not in
>the market for using titanium parts in it's motor. That's Porsche
>territory. In other words, $$$$$$$$$$. So, how does the VQ35 wind up
>weighing less than the VQ30?

I believe it does weigh less - how much, I don't know. I remember
reading about it when they came out with the design - .5 L more
displacement in the same size package. They did so by using some
super-strength aluminum walls, which are thinner and lighter - yet
stronger than the aluminum they put into the VQ30 engines.

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Bitsbucket - 22 Aug 2004 15:56 GMT
I HEARD (that means read on the net so take it for what it is worth) it's
about 50 lbs lighter....
bitsbucket

> >Reduced weight? the VQ30 was already all aluminum, and Nissan's not in
> >the market for using titanium parts in it's motor. That's Porsche
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> kai at 3gproductions dot com
JM - 23 Aug 2004 17:16 GMT
It's a reasonable question, but, yeah, word was when it came out that
it was lighter.  It's all in the specific alloy used.  Stronger,
thinner, lighter.

The way the tranny, a/c, etc. talk with the engine, everything has to
be fine-tuned to work properly.  If you just slap a new engine in
there, I think you may be in for a world of hurt.  Just say no.

JM
Codifus - 23 Aug 2004 21:54 GMT
> I HEARD (that means read on the net so take it for what it is worth) it's
> about 50 lbs lighter....
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Wow. That's really impressive. This VQ series really just keeps getting
better and better. I used to be a bit envious of the VQ35, now I am much
more so:) Wards auto better give Nissan another award.

Of course now competition is heating up. Have you guys noticed the new
V6 in the new Audi A6? 255 hp out of 3.1 liters of displacement,
normally aspirated. How? direct injection, a technology that until now
was only in diesel engines. That is the engine to watch in my book.

CD
filesiteguy - 23 Aug 2004 22:55 GMT
>I HEARD (that means read on the net so take it for what it is worth) it's
>about 50 lbs lighter....
>bitsbucket

Okay...

Per:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB3&Number=1034
8&page=11&view=collapsed&sb=3&o=&fpart=1


The VQ35 is a bored out VQ30 with dual stage intake and new timing
chain/water pump.

About a half hour of googling and that's all  I could find. There was
one forum posting where someone thought the VQ35 weighed about 30
pounds less than the VQ30.

I also found a Z forum where they were discussing the possibility of
Nissan going back to the 3.0 engines and turbo charging the Z since
they can't really put much boost into the blocks of the 3.5 engine,
and that the 4.0 L engine would put too much weight into the car.

Interesting.

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Steve Manifold - 09 Sep 2004 21:15 GMT
I know of one person who right now is in the process of putting a VQ35 into
a 4th gen Maxima.  Last I heard he has the engine in and is working through
harness details.

> Can this be done? Will it bolt up to the existing tranny? How much
> fabrication would be involved?anyone have any experience doing this? With
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004
Steve Manifold - 09 Sep 2004 21:27 GMT
Make that two people, one of them is running.

> I know of one person who right now is in the process of putting a VQ35 into
> a 4th gen Maxima.  Last I heard he has the engine in and is working through
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filesiteguy - 10 Sep 2004 19:34 GMT
Steve Manifold scratched out in the sand

> Make that two people, one of them is running.

>> I know of one person who right now is in the process of putting a VQ35
> into
>> a 4th gen Maxima.  Last I heard he has the engine in and is working
> through
>> harness details.

Thinking about the cost/effort, wouldn't one just be better off putting a
supercharger / headers / y-exhaust / dual pipe configuration in?  

You'd probably end up with more HP.

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Steve Manifold - 01 Oct 2004 15:48 GMT
> Steve Manifold scratched out in the sand
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> You'd probably end up with more HP.

Most definitely, regarding the SC.  Some people are into all-motor
performance, though.
Codifus - 13 Sep 2004 17:50 GMT
> Make that two people, one of them is running.
>
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These guys are taking the bottom end (pistons, block, oil pan etc) of
the Vq35 and dropping the the VQ30s cylinderhead on top block, therby
bypassing the need to adjust/change electronics etc?

CD
Steve Manifold - 17 Sep 2004 16:27 GMT
> > Make that two people, one of them is running.
> >
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> CD

One guy has done a complete engine swap including heads, harness and ecu.
The other didn't mention harness and ecu, but I don't see how he could have
done it otherwise.
 
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