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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / September 2004

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97 Ignition Lock/ Removal..need help quick!!!

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driver - 29 Sep 2004 14:24 GMT
97 Maxima
Broke my one key this morning. Tried to solder it back together to get the
store and get a copy. I soldered with success and it worked in the door but
would not turn the igniton. (And I have to get to work)

Eventually, I BROKE the key half off in the ignition. (DAMN!!!!)

SO I removed all the plastic covers and was able to remove the electrical
igntion switch. Presto, I started the car. I thought great..I am on my way.

Oh but wait, there's more......

I forgot about the steering wheel lock.

IS THERE any way to remove the key barel? with out turning the key or with
out drilling out the large rivets that hold the whole assembly to the
steering tube??????

Please help, If I could get the car moving/drivable, I could get to the
dealer to remove the broken peice.. or If I could get it out, I;d get to a
store and get a copy.

It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
driver - 29 Sep 2004 14:27 GMT
I forgot to mention,

I cannot get to work untill this problem is solved.

Thanks in advance to anyone helps... Much Thanks!

--STeve

> 97 Maxima
> Broke my one key this morning. Tried to solder it back together to get the
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> It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
E. Meyer - 29 Sep 2004 15:14 GMT
On many car lines, the dealer (or any legit locksmith) can look up the key
code from the VIN.  You might try calling a dealer and see if they can do it
for yours.  If they can, they can make you a key.  Some of them are even
nice enough that they might bring it to you if their courtesy van is
cruising your area anyway.  Failing that, there are taxi cabs.

Is any of the broken key protruding from the hole?  Maybe you could
superglue something to the end of it to pull it out.

On 9/29/04 8:27 AM, in article tLy6d.1728592$ic1.176778@news.easynews.com,

> I forgot to mention,
>
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>> out drilling out the large rivets that hold the whole assembly to the
>> steering tube??????

They are not rivets, they are shear-bolts, and no.  It is intentional that
they have to be destroyed to get it out (car theft thing).

>> Please help, If I could get the car moving/drivable, I could get to the
>> dealer to remove the broken peice.. or If I could get it out, I;d get to a
>> store and get a copy.
>>
>> It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
>> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
E. Meyer - 29 Sep 2004 15:24 GMT
Another thought -- if all of the business end of the key is in the ignition
switch, it should turn.  Try inserting the tips of a needle-nosed pliers
into the edges of the key slot and see if you can turn it (make sure to pull
the wheel away from the wheel-lock stop so its not bound up with that).

On 9/29/04 9:14 AM, in article BD802D6B.A067C%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org, "E.
Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote:

> On many car lines, the dealer (or any legit locksmith) can look up the key
> code from the VIN.  You might try calling a dealer and see if they can do it
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>>> It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
>>> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
driver - 29 Sep 2004 16:02 GMT
Looks like its gonna be about a $120 locksmith job.

about half of the teethed portion of key is stuck in there. I cannot even
see it with a flash light. If the lock smith is to come here, its 85 for a
new key, IF he can get it out and it copiable. 115 if he has to take the
assy. off (steering cloumn apart).

> Another thought -- if all of the business end of the key is in the ignition
> switch, it should turn.  Try inserting the tips of a needle-nosed pliers
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> >>> It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
> >>> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
Bitsbucket - 29 Sep 2004 17:08 GMT
Just pay the locksmith, and call it a lesson learned. (IF you have the bucks
to do it) I do computer work and it's LESS than that for me to come to your
house for comp. service!. I must be in the wrong business!!!

But really, now that you have a key, (you did get one from the dealer
...right?) you just need to get the old piece of the key out, correct? I
would try the other guys suggestion, and try to superglue something to the
piece and pull it out. (BE CAREFUL you don't want to superglue something
into your ignition lock!!) or if it is ferrous metal (can be picked-up by a
magnet) try one of those super strong magnets to get it out. Also maybe
hemostats? (I must have 5 pairs of those things, they come in real handy
doing comp.work, or anything else that requires something smaller than
fingers or needle nose pliers), in fact I could not get along without them,
and they are cheap! you can always find them at computer shows, gun shows,
tool stores, etc. They come in all shapes and sizes. You might try that....

I am like you in that I'd be damned dead and determined to get it out
myself, to try and avoid a locksmith call, if I could.
Good luck with what ever you decide,
2maximas.

> Looks like its gonna be about a $120 locksmith job.
>
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> digit
>> >>> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
driver - 29 Sep 2004 18:08 GMT
THanks Bits.

Problem is, its such a small peice thats in there and its in deep.
Argghh!!!!

Its about 3/8" of the tip. And I think its getting caught on the cams on the
lock.
Ya know, most keys    are brass. (non magnetic). And the hemostats are to
big.....

Oh well. I did go get the key from the dealer..(I drove my '74 VW Bus but
prefer not to comute with it, plus I have to take care of this)

Well, I guess I missd worked today

> Just pay the locksmith, and call it a lesson learned. (IF you have the bucks
> to do it) I do computer work and it's LESS than that for me to come to your
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driver - 29 Sep 2004 16:11 GMT
Well good news,

THe Nissan dealer has the vin nuber and can cut a key for. Nice! $7

Too f..kn bad I broke that peice in there.  If I can get that had. I'm set!

guess I should have called the dealer first.....should coulda... right...(I
was jst so steamin' this mornin')

> On many car lines, the dealer (or any legit locksmith) can look up the key
> code from the VIN.  You might try calling a dealer and see if they can do it
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> >> It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
> >> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
driver - 29 Sep 2004 19:38 GMT
Luckily, it only cost me $80 from the locksmith. He was here in about 30
mins. after I called and had that little peice out in minutes.

Thanks for the suggestions eveyrone. ANd thanks for a.a.n.m.
(I forgot to tip the guy, after all, he taught me a trick about removing the
assy. I think i'll mail it to his shop.)

> 97 Maxima
> Broke my one key this morning. Tried to solder it back together to get the
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> It does not help that I do not have the KEY I.D.    (there is a 4 digit
> number on the ignition light ring, is this my key ID???????)
 
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