I have a 2000 Maxima GLE with 77K miles. It has run fine for the 4 months
since I bought it but 4 weeks ago developed a misfire. It quit after about
3 miles and then ran fine for a week and then did it again. I drove for
another 3-5 miles and it quit again. I then bought a code reader and (the
code #?s are at home) the first code was a misfire in cylinder 4 with the
second being distributor interrupt. I called ther service shop and they
said it was a bad coil. It has run fine for the last 2 weeks with no
misfires.
Does a ignition coil quit all at once or does it begin to malfunction and
then over time finally die?
Alan - 28 Oct 2004 15:51 GMT
Does the quit mean the engine stop running or just running rough? The engine
does run rough if you has a bad coil but it's very unlikely and almost
impossible that all coils would fail all at once. I also have a 2000gle with
over 80k miles still on original coils. Have you ECM checked, the problem
might be more serious.
>I have a 2000 Maxima GLE with 77K miles. It has run fine for the 4 months
> since I bought it but 4 weeks ago developed a misfire. It quit after about
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> Does a ignition coil quit all at once or does it begin to malfunction and
> then over time finally die?
Pat@Boston.Harbor - 29 Oct 2004 01:28 GMT
>Does a ignition coil quit all at once or does it begin to malfunction and
>then over time finally die?
I think they typically become intermittent before completely failing.
But remember you have 6 coils, one on each plug. On older cars with
one coil, if it went bad you were stuck. On these cars a bad coil
will make your engine run rough.
There was a TSB for bad coils on the 2000 maxima.. if you are within
warranty 3/36 or the longer powertrain warranty, (not sure which
applies) then you can show the dealer the TSB and get it done for
free.
NissTech - 29 Oct 2004 23:00 GMT
Wrong answer Pat.
Just because there is a TSB on a particular problem does not mean you will
get it fixed for free.
TSB's are diagnosis aids for technicians, not warranty extension for owners
> >Does a ignition coil quit all at once or does it begin to malfunction and
> >then over time finally die?
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> applies) then you can show the dealer the TSB and get it done for
> free.
John Smith - 30 Oct 2004 00:43 GMT
I think the NTHSA would have a different opinion on the dealer fixing
the problem at no cost while it was under warranty. If there is
Technical Service Bulletin called out and your car is under warranty it
is a given that the dealer will correct the problem. If not go through
the Zone Rep or call Nissan direct and if that fails you go to the
National highway Transportation Safety Agency. Yes, a TSB is not a
recall. But, if reported to the government and the dealer refuses to
correct the problem there is going to be an issue...
> Wrong answer Pat.
>
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>>applies) then you can show the dealer the TSB and get it done for
>>free.
Pat@Boston.Harbor - 30 Oct 2004 03:22 GMT
>Wrong answer Pat.
>
>Just because there is a TSB on a particular problem does not mean you will
>get it fixed for free.
>
>TSB's are diagnosis aids for technicians, not warranty extension for owners
You're correct, you won't automatically get it fixed for free. But a
dealer will be hard-pressed to deny service when you have a TSB in
hand that describes the problem you're having.
I've shown them a couple of TSBs that they said they knew nothing
about (most notably the fuel-cut issue) and had to hammer them until I
got action. As far as I was concerned, my car was under warranty, it
was exhibiting a serious problem, and it was described in their TSB.
There'd be trouble if they didn't do something about it. If they
still refuse, you can call the territory manager next. After that,
there are still options.
I have no desire to go through this process again, but in the 80's I
went through the lemon-law process with a car the dealer couldn't fix.
If you decide to back down and take no action you won't get anywhere
and will have to live with the problem.
I agree if you're out of warranty you'll have a tough time getting
action, but in some cases there is still a possibility. I have heard
of people getting all their coils replaced free after the warranty
expired (a 2000 in particular). It's now 2004.. depending on the
mileage the original poster has today, he's probably out of luck. But
if his mileage was low, he could argue that the coils had an inherent
(and known) problem and should not have failed so quickly.
John Smith - 29 Oct 2004 01:43 GMT
It is intermittent as you describe. Best to replace them all at once
and be done with it.
> I have a 2000 Maxima GLE with 77K miles. It has run fine for the 4 months
> since I bought it but 4 weeks ago developed a misfire. It quit after about
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> Does a ignition coil quit all at once or does it begin to malfunction and
> then over time finally die?
greg_lee2000 - 30 Oct 2004 10:43 GMT
Thanks Guys!
My Maxima is a Nissan Certified vehicle but they said that doesn't cover
the coils. It did cover them replacing my Cruise Control module which was
surging/hunting.
I'm pretty mechanically inclined and it wouldn't hurt to put in new spark
plugs so I don't mind changing the coil.
Do I really need to change all of the coils? I haven't had another episode
since I posted and then it was only cylinder #4.
Also does anyone know a good place (less expensive) to buy a coils??
Greg
Bruce - 01 Nov 2004 00:37 GMT
I'm no expert.... but, coils can be had on ebay. I had a problem with
a coil that didn't set a code telling which coil. I had my local
mechanic change a front and back coil and give me the old ones. The
idea was that I would change the next set if this didn't solve the
problem and put the old ones in. The initial replacement solved the
problem. $0.02 worth....
Bruce
>Thanks Guys!
>
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>
>Greg
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What happens when the coils fail? How do you know you need new coils?
New maxima owner
Dennis
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> What happens when the coils fail? How do you know you need new coils?
The knock-sensor will need to trip 2 times in a row. The "Service Engine"
light will then stay on.
Luckly this happened to my 2000 Nissan while it was still under the 36/3
warranty and I got all six replaced for free. However I don't expect
these to last...
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