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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / November 2004

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Borla Pro XS for the 2003 Maxima

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John Clare - 13 Nov 2004 04:37 GMT
I'm looking into replacing the stock muffler on my 2003 Maxima SE with a
Borla Pro XS Muffler.

http://www.borla.com/proxs/pages/muflrdual.php?cartID=2004111220343766.66.194.5

The dimensions are nearly identical, but my local speed shop advised against
it suggesting they could end up charging for hours of labor, brackets and
hangers... more than doubling the cost of the muffler itself.  (The Pro XS
runs from $110 to $130 depending on where you buy it.)  Their hesitance
seemed kind of an odd response to me.

Anyone have any experience or advice to this objective?
John Clare - 16 Nov 2004 01:53 GMT
More on this - the stock muffler is a side-inlet, and looks to be of the 2"
variety. This rather sucks. Borla doesn't seem an option. They do offer a
side-inlet, single-center outlet for a 2" pipe, but it's a 14" body, so the
hanger arrangement would have to be customized, and there would have to be
an extension.

Frustrating. No one has any advice?

> I'm looking into replacing the stock muffler on my 2003 Maxima SE with a
> Borla Pro XS Muffler.
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> Anyone have any experience or advice to this objective?
David Geesaman - 16 Nov 2004 12:12 GMT
> More on this - the stock muffler is a side-inlet, and looks to be of the 2"
> variety. This rather sucks. Borla doesn't seem an option. They do offer a
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> Frustrating. No one has any advice?

Get over it?  Rice IMO.

Dave
John Clare - 17 Nov 2004 12:42 GMT
Took me a while to figure out what "Rice IMO" means, but apparantly "IMO" is
an abbreviation for "in my opinion", and "Rice" is likely a reference to
"rice burner".  In other words, I'm guesing Dave thinks a replacement
muffler on the '03 Maxima would cheapen it, akin to all the plastic-clad
fast-n-furious japanese compacts so common today.

To some extent, I agree, however that's why I was researching the dual-tip,
19" Borla ProXS, which is nearly identical in configuration to the stock
muffler.  The last think I want is one of those large-mouth glasspacks
puck-pucking out my car's rear.

Still researching... still not there yet.  Was hoping this newsgroup could
offer some insight.

> Get over it?  Rice IMO.
>
> Dave
David Geesaman - 17 Nov 2004 13:29 GMT
> Took me a while to figure out what "Rice IMO" means, but apparantly "IMO" is
> an abbreviation for "in my opinion", and "Rice" is likely a reference to
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> Still researching... still not there yet.  Was hoping this newsgroup could
> offer some insight.

   What is your purpose in changing it?  If you don't like fartcan
mufflers, then aftermarket mostly isn't what you want.  Supposedly it
doesn't add hardly any horsepower anyway.  If there is something wrong with
your stocker, buy a used one - there are plenty out there very cheap.
   According to the folks at maxima.org, the Frankencar and Cattman
cat-backs are reasonably quiet replacements.

   Dave
John Clare - 17 Nov 2004 23:39 GMT
Hi Dave.  Nothing wrong with the stock muffler, it's just that Borla
products have a wonderfully deep tone to them.  I've always had the opinion
they're at the high-end of the aftermarket exhausts.  I wasn't so much going
for a noticable increase in HP as I was looking for a pleasing sound-n-feel.
Still, the ProXS and K&N Filter together would likely add up to 10hp.
Noticable on top of 255hp...?  Doubtful, but maybe.  Again, not the focus.

I once put a cheap Pacesetter Cat-back on a '92 240SX.  The performance
change was very noticable, but it sounded like crap.  I don't want to repeat
that mistake.

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars.htm

I may very well have to pursue the cat-back solution, because a simple and
acceptable muffler replacement doesn't seem to be in the works.  However,
that's a little more $$ too.

john

> What is your purpose in changing it?  If you don't like fartcan
> mufflers, then aftermarket mostly isn't what you want.  Supposedly it
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>    Dave
Pat@Boston.Harbor - 18 Nov 2004 11:29 GMT
>http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars.htm

Nice page, John.

P.S. have thought of replacing the stock muffler on my 2002 also.  If
I did, I'd go for similar appearance with a low, throaty hush.
Nothing noisy or raspy.  Gave up after a short and fruitless search.
Maybe I'll get some nicer tips...
John Clare - 19 Nov 2004 02:04 GMT
Thanks, Pat.  Seems we're of the same mind regarding the exhaust.

Until the time that a catback or muffler with Borla quality is available for
the '03 Max, I think I'll be getting myself one of those Frankencar/Apexi
Intake Systems for Xmas :-)

john

>>http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars.htm
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> Nothing noisy or raspy.  Gave up after a short and fruitless search.
> Maybe I'll get some nicer tips...
John Clare - 18 Nov 2004 02:59 GMT
Frankencar...  never heard of them until your post, Dave.  I've been
researching their Apexi Filter Air Intake system, and am getting pretty
charged up about what I'm reading throughout the net.

So, thanks for the tip.

john

>> Took me a while to figure out what "Rice IMO" means, but apparantly "IMO"
> is
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>    Dave
 
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