I just bought a 2002 Maxima SE from Planet Honda - Union NJ. it is a
very nice car - black in and out, leather, 6 speed manual, with 20,100
miles. i got a very good price on the car.
the carfax report on the car showed no findings. no accidents, no
odometer rollbacks, etc.
i do now suspect that the hood was and front fenders were repainted (I
noticed this after i already bought the vehicle). i noticed a tape
line on the front grill. the fenders were never removed (there are no
wrench marks on the fender bolts) so i think that maybe the car was
bumped in the front and it caused the grill to push out the fenders by
the headlights. anyway, i see no other signs of frame or engine
damage. nor do i see wrench marks on any bolts anywhere. by the way,
what good is carfax if it does not show everything about the car?
anyway - now to my main question: since the dealer was not fully
upfront and truthfull with me about the car, i am now concerned that
maybe the 20k miles on the car is not accurate. Is it possible for a
dealer(or anybody) to rollback an odometer on a 2002 maxima? do you
think that the 20k miles reading on my car is authentic?
thanks for your help
JT
JimV - 02 Oct 2003 17:16 GMT
It's very common for dealers to repaint the noses of used cars. The
gravel and sand on the road pits the front surfaces pretty quickly,
especially if driven on the highway frequently. I wouldn't lose any
sleep over it.
> I just bought a 2002 Maxima SE from Planet Honda - Union NJ. it is a
> very nice car - black in and out, leather, 6 speed manual, with 20,100
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> JT
Tom - 03 Oct 2003 00:48 GMT
JT:
I have a 2002 SE as well. Beleive me when I say that Nissan paint on the
Max and their other cars are like Butter. I have 20K on my car too and
the front of my car has spots all over it. The bumper and front hood
look like someone took a cup of white sprinkles and dropped them all over
(I have a Grey Luster, so they stand out!).
I see where your coming from about being worried, but trust me, the paint
that's on there now, is a lot better than the paint that's under it! They
were doing you a favor (they should have told you though)
I'm considering getting my front repainted as well. There's a lawsuit
against Nissan about the cheap water based paint, that they use on their
cars.
Tom
> I just bought a 2002 Maxima SE from Planet Honda - Union NJ. it is a
> very nice car - black in and out, leather, 6 speed manual, with 20,100
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> JT
Kai Ponte - 04 Oct 2003 22:56 GMT
>JT:
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>against Nissan about the cheap water based paint, that they use on their
>cars.
I'll third that opinion.
I've never had more pits and holes in my paint than on my Nissans.
('87 hardbody, '93 altima, '98 Maxima) My GMC, by contrast had almost
no dings after seven years - and that included a lot of off-roading
and highway miles.
K
Eric - 11 Oct 2003 03:56 GMT
count me in 2002 with horrible rock chips, love the car but the paint is a
joke
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RoadRunner - 11 Oct 2003 19:34 GMT
is there a place online that i can sign some sort of petition on this crap
that they call paint? Don't get me wrong I love the car, but I live in
Kansas and there are no "road rules" here for big trucks that keep them in
the far right lanes so in less than 3 months I had a salt and pepper hood.
Nissan is really really slow about getting me in to get the paint fixed on a
factory blemish in the rear quarter...ik I'm done venting.
'02 Max SE Merlot and metal primer...
> count me in 2002 with horrible rock chips, love the car but the paint is a
> joke
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F. W. STORM - 11 Oct 2003 23:10 GMT
I thought it was me. The paint on my 2002 is also terrible. Far more damage
than on my 1999 Sable that travels the same roads.
This is my second Japanese car. The other one, a Mazda, also had substandard
paint.
Although the Maxima is a nice car, I consider this a major fault.
I won't buy another Nissan (as I haven't bought a second Mazda).
Fit & Finish - ?????????????????
> is there a place online that i can sign some sort of petition on this crap
> that they call paint? Don't get me wrong I love the car, but I live in
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Tom - 13 Oct 2003 12:30 GMT
Yeah,
There's a class action lawsuit that you can sign up for. I forgot the
site, but if you goto Maxima.org you'll find a link to it there.
Most people on that board had a clearbra put on the front of their cars.
It's a plastic film from 3M that protects the front, but is nearly
invisible. Sadly, by the time I found the product, it was too late.
I think the problem with the paint is an industry problem. Apparently,
manufacturers have been forced to switch to water based paint (Instead of
the paint they used to use) for environmental reasons, so that's why it's
so lame.
Nissan paint seems to be the worst though. It's as if they took the
water based paint, mixed in some butter, and then used it to paint the
cars....
Tom
> I thought it was me. The paint on my 2002 is also terrible. Far more
> damage than on my 1999 Sable that travels the same roads.
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noyap - 14 Oct 2003 17:50 GMT
Tsk, tsk, tsk, shame on you! How can you possibly consider anything
detrimental about these cars? <LOL> |:>)
> I thought it was me. The paint on my 2002 is also terrible. Far more damage
> than on my 1999 Sable that travels the same roads.
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> I won't buy another Nissan (as I haven't bought a second Mazda).
> Fit & Finish - ?????????????????
Xpditor - 30 Oct 2003 15:48 GMT
I just sold my 14 year old Nissan Maxima GXE to a friend's daughter - her
first car. The paint was still glossy and unblemished except for the soft
side moldings which have dulled. There wasn't even a parking lot ding on
it. I garaged it for the first ten years but it has been in the Florida sun
for the last four.
Xpditor
> count me in 2002 with horrible rock chips, love the car but the paint is a
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lcbill - 12 Apr 2004 04:57 GMT
I got a demo with the same pit problems on the hood but just accepted this
as part of a used car. . . lately the car got sprinkled by the systems
which weren't changed to daylight savings time . . .by the time I got the
car home & washed it was too late . . there are water stains in the clear
coat. .. I've seen this problem before . . anyone know how to get them
out?
Mike - 04 Oct 2003 01:36 GMT
The 2000 SE I bought a few months ago had the same thing. The bumper
was repainted and reassembled (badly), I pitched a fit and they
repainted it, but still can't put it back together right (idiots).
>I just bought a 2002 Maxima SE from Planet Honda - Union NJ. it is a
>very nice car - black in and out, leather, 6 speed manual, with 20,100
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