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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / February 2005

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TKCoop - 18 Jan 2005 15:30 GMT
For the past few months I have had difficulties starting my 95 Maxima. The
battery is good (1.5 years old, posts clean) but every once and awhile the
car won't start. The lights are on, etc. but no start. Then, after a few
hours, bingo - it starts. It has now happened three times this past
weekend so now it is in the Nissan dealership. Wouldn't you know it - it
started once it was towed there. Unfortunately, they can't do anything
until teh problem repeats. Surely there is a test they can do to see if
the starter is performing properly. When it is -30 I need a car to start.
Chuck Pinnegar - 18 Jan 2005 16:46 GMT
>For the past few months I have had difficulties starting my 95 Maxima. The
>battery is good (1.5 years old, posts clean) but every once and awhile the
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>until teh problem repeats. Surely there is a test they can do to see if
>the starter is performing properly. When it is -30 I need a car to start.

When I had this problem it seemed that "possibly" there was a choke
problem - not enuff gas. So, I started to turn on the key and wait for
30 seconds, then contact. Starts every time now, 20 below this morn,
zoomed first time. Now, since I am not a mechanic I probably corrected
something else by doing what I did but what the hay, it works.8-)
David Geesaman - 18 Jan 2005 18:28 GMT
Check for codes regarding the crankshaft and camshaft position sensors.
When they start to go bad the ECU won't post a code until it happens twice
in a row.  In my case, it went slowly from an occasional refusal to crank
(removing the key and re-cranking would work) to more often.  For me it
began cold weather, went away in the spring, and finally the sensor died in
summer.  Haven't had a starting problem since.

Dave

> For the past few months I have had difficulties starting my 95 Maxima. The
> battery is good (1.5 years old, posts clean) but every once and awhile the
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> until teh problem repeats. Surely there is a test they can do to see if
> the starter is performing properly. When it is -30 I need a car to start.
Monte - 19 Jan 2005 05:10 GMT
I had a 91 G20 that did the same thing.  The starters tend to develop a flat
spot on them so if they stop in the 'right' spot, no contact is made to turn it
over.  Also, I just replaced the starter in my wife's 96 Maxima this weekend.
It finally showed symptoms while I was around by turning slowly and grind to a
dead halt like a weak battery, but the battery is less than a year old.  Cranks
amazingly fast now.

>For the past few months I have had difficulties starting my 95 Maxima. The
>battery is good (1.5 years old, posts clean) but every once and awhile the
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>until teh problem repeats. Surely there is a test they can do to see if
>the starter is performing properly. When it is -30 I need a car to start.
Mike - 20 Jan 2005 00:34 GMT
You're not very specific about "won't start".

Does it turn over?  If not, I found that on my 96 Max, the starter got
sluggish.  I pulled it, took it apart and cleaned up the bearings and
re-greased it.  Worked like a charm.   If you're not mechanical at all, you
may need to have it replaced.

If it does turn over, but just not start, then you might need new plugs, or
there is a myrad of things that could cause hard starting problems, flooding
(are you at a high altitude? sometimes helps to hold the gas down 1/4 of the
way when its cold), there are also some TSBs on hard starting cars that you
might look up.

Mike

> For the past few months I have had difficulties starting my 95 Maxima. The
> battery is good (1.5 years old, posts clean) but every once and awhile the
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> until teh problem repeats. Surely there is a test they can do to see if
> the starter is performing properly. When it is -30 I need a car to start.
David Efflandt - 20 Jan 2005 10:19 GMT
> For the past few months I have had difficulties starting my 95 Maxima. The
> battery is good (1.5 years old, posts clean) but every once and awhile the
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> until teh problem repeats. Surely there is a test they can do to see if
> the starter is performing properly. When it is -30 I need a car to start.

You do not mention if it cranks, but does not fire, or fails to crank at
all.  I have had a problem with my 95 for awhile, where I just get a
single relay click, but no crank.  If I jiggle the key while turning it,
it starts right up.  Some people have replaced their ignition switch
without resolving that problem.

My starter was replaced years ago.  At that time it had sort of a loping
crank, like the starter had a dead spot.  And when it finally stopped on
the dead spot and would not crank at all, I replaced it.  But that is
different from current symptoms where it cranks fine, if it cranks at all.

Of course if you get a chatter and/or lights dim, that is a sign of
battery too weak to engage starter.
TKCoop - 22 Jan 2005 23:31 GMT
The Nissan dealership was no help - said it was the battery (which I knew
it wasn't). The car did not crank, lights did not dim, and often started
when -30 below. The battery was only 1 year old (sear Diehard).

So I took the car to my college (where I am VP), had the auto instructors
look at the problem, and confirmed it was not the battery or charging
system. Luckily they had a class working on tuneups so the students took
the stater apart, cleaned the contacts, and it seems to start quicker now.
The instructors said if it happens again they will replace the relay switch
between the ignition switch and starter. They said this may be the problem
but felt it may be alright. Removing the switch and putting it back may
have provided a better contact. The part switch number (for those of you
with a 95 Maxima) is 25230C99624100614 and takes 1 minute to replace.
Anyway, thanks for the help fellas.
chick_hearn - 19 Feb 2005 00:12 GMT
I own a 2000 Nissan Maxima (automatic).  I've noticed minor hiccups when
starting the car over the past couple of years.  Last night, the car
barely started.  Today, it won't start at all.

Is it a battery issue, or is it the starter?  I tried jumpstarting the
car, but that didn't work.

I've tried suggestions from other threads, like starting the car from park
and neutral & jiggling the shifter.  But the shifter is stuck, so there's
no way I can try starting the car from "N".
chick_hearn - 19 Feb 2005 00:12 GMT
I own a 2000 Nissan Maxima (automatic).  I've noticed minor hiccups when
starting the car over the past couple of years.  Last night, the car
barely started.  Today, it won't start at all.

Is it a battery issue, or is it the starter?  I tried jumpstarting the
car, but that didn't work.

I've tried suggestions from other threads, like starting the car from park
and neutral & jiggling the shifter.  But the shifter is stuck, so there's
no way I can try starting the car from "N".
john smith - 19 Feb 2005 16:36 GMT
The starter is dried up on the inside.  The starter uses a planetary
gear reduction unit and Nissan did not use enough grease inside to
lubricate the thing over the long term.  As a result yours is probably
fried the brushes.  Take the air box out and then you can get access to
the starter.  The nice thing is you do not have to get under the car to
get the starter off.  I took mine apart a year ago when it started doing
the slow start and noise thing and packed the gear set with grease and
it has worked fine since.  You might try that or just get a rebuilt
unit.  The starter is held on by one big bolt that goes in from one side
and a smaller bolt on the other side.  You will need a breaker bar for
the big one as it is in quite tight.  Other than that it was easy to
remove and reinstall.

> I own a 2000 Nissan Maxima (automatic).  I've noticed minor hiccups when
> starting the car over the past couple of years.  Last night, the car
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> and neutral & jiggling the shifter.  But the shifter is stuck, so there's
> no way I can try starting the car from "N".
 
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