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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / March 2005

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DIY strut replacement question

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feynmanfan88@yahoo.com - 02 Mar 2005 19:10 GMT
After buying the manual on CD off of ebay and reading the section on
replacing the struts it seems like a pretty straight-forward operation.
However, I'm hoping someone out there can shed some light on how the
strut shaft is secured while loosening and torquing the lock nut.  When
I examine the replacement cartridges I notice that the shaft can be
turned by hand and I don't see any place to put a wrench to hold it in
place while torquing the lock nut.  I'm quite sure that using vice
grips on the polished surface of the shaft is not the way to go ;-)

Thanks!
JimV - 03 Mar 2005 00:24 GMT
> After buying the manual on CD off of ebay and reading the section on
> replacing the struts it seems like a pretty straight-forward operation.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thanks!

You can use vice grips on the old one. The new one should have a hex
above the nut to hold the shaft.
jmattis@attglobal.net - 03 Mar 2005 03:55 GMT
> After buying the manual on CD off of ebay and reading the section on
> replacing the struts it seems like a pretty straight-forward operation.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thanks!

Air tools.  It will spin the nut so fast the shaft doesn't have time to
move.  If you can't do it yourself, take the assembly to a shop and
they'll do it for a few bucks.

JM
Steve T - 03 Mar 2005 05:32 GMT
>>.  I'm quite sure that using vice
>> grips on the polished surface of the shaft is not the way to go ;-)

Works for the old one, not the new one obviously.

> Air tools.  It will spin the nut so fast the shaft doesn't have time to
> move.  If you can't do it yourself, take the assembly to a shop and
> they'll do it for a few bucks.

That's how I've always done them although many cars use a keyed = D = shaped
end on the strut shaft and a similar = D = shaped hole in the strut cap
that keeps them from turning while tightening. But then some don't...

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feynmanfan88@yahoo.com - 05 Mar 2005 17:07 GMT
The job is now under way and it turns out that there is indeed a
D-shaped key so loosening the nut was not an issue.  Pulling out the
struts was a piece of cake.  Now I'm off to figure out how to do the
same with the shocks.
Steve T - 05 Mar 2005 20:51 GMT
> The job is now under way and it turns out that there is indeed a
> D-shaped key so loosening the nut was not an issue.  Pulling out the
> struts was a piece of cake.  Now I'm off to figure out how to do the
> same with the shocks.

Another tip, always either leave or put some oil, like ATF into the strut
housing before installing the insert. This fluid transfers the heat from
the insert to the outer housing so it doesn't overheat. If you don't, this
air space acts like a thermos bottle and overheats the insert.
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feynmanfan88@yahoo.com - 06 Mar 2005 20:41 GMT
Thanks for the tip Steve, however I don't think it applies in my
particular case as the struts came as an integral assembly including
the bottom mounting bracket, etc.  (Tokico HP)
Monte - 05 Mar 2005 21:10 GMT
>The job is now under way and it turns out that there is indeed a
>D-shaped key so loosening the nut was not an issue.  Pulling out the
>struts was a piece of cake.  Now I'm off to figure out how to do the
>same with the shocks.

You can loosen it while it's still in the car.  Don't remove it (obviously),
just enough to break the tension, and then remove the three top mounting nuts.
Another method is to use vice grips, but very high on the shaft and wrapped with
a shop rag to prevent scoring.
feynmanfan88@yahoo.com - 06 Mar 2005 20:38 GMT
OK, the shocks have now been removed.  The official shop manual calls
for an elaborate procedure to drop the whole axle assembly after
disconnecting the ABS assembly and removing the brake caliber and
rotor.  WTF?  I simply placed a jack under the bottom of the shock to
support it while I removed the bolt that passes through the bushing.
Then I loosened the two nuts on the top shock absorber mounting bracket
and pulled out the shock with easy as can be.  The hardest part about
removing the rear shocks was to remove all the interior stuff necessary
to get to the shock mounting bracket.

So far, so good . . .  Now its on to compressing the springs and
replacing the shock and strut cartridges.  BTW:  At 100K miles the dust
boots for both shocks and struts were totally ripped up.  I had to
special order these from the dealer (why these aren't commonly stocked
parts I have no clue) at a cost of around $100 dollars.  I bet that the
service writer who quoted me a price to have the shocks and struts
replaced by the dealer didn't include the boots.  Bottom line: dealer
quote for the job including parts and labor (with $100 added for the
dust boots) was $1600 bucks!  My actual cost for parts alone was $525.
Wahooooooo!
feynmanfan88@yahoo.com - 06 Mar 2005 20:44 GMT
OK, the shocks have now been removed.  The official shop manual calls
for an elaborate procedure to drop the whole axle assembly after
disconnecting the ABS assembly and removing the brake caliber and
rotor.  WTF?  I simply placed a jack under the bottom of the shock to
support it while I removed the bolt that passes through the bushing.
Then I loosened the two nuts on the top shock absorber mounting bracket
and pulled out the shock assembly as easy as can be.  The hardest part
about removing the rear shocks was to remove all the interior stuff
necessary to get to the shock mounting bracket.

So far, so good . . .  Now its on to compressing the springs and
replacing the shock and strut cartridges.  BTW:  At 100K miles the dust
boots for both shocks and struts were totally ripped up.  I had to
special order these from the dealer (why these aren't commonly stocked
parts I have no clue) at a cost of around $100 dollars.  I bet that the
service writer who quoted me a price to have the shocks and struts
replaced by the dealer didn't include the boots.  Bottom line: dealer
quote for the job including parts and labor (with $100 added for the
dust boots) was $1600 bucks!  My actual cost for parts alone was $525.
Wahooooooo!
 
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