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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / June 2005

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Not Using Parking Brake

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Codifus - 31 May 2005 19:01 GMT
Forgiving me for posting on this maxima forums about altims, but I'm
sure this issue is related. My wife has a 98 Altima automatic. She parks
on the hill often and never uses the parking brake. I told her that it
could be bad because PARK isn't really meant to hold a car on a hill. It
can do it, but that's not its job. Recently, she developed starting
problems with the car. The car would not start at all, no ingition motor
turning over, nothing. Then, all of a sudden, the car would come back to
life and start like a champ. I should also mention, that becasue she
doesn't use the praking brake, whenever she starts the car and shifts
from PARK to DRIVE, PARK dis-engages with a strong thud. I think that's
not good.

So I'm wondering, what is she perhaps wearing out prematurely, the
neutral safety switch? And am I right in guessing that her parking
habits are probably responsible for the starting troubles that have
recently developed?

TIA

CD
JimV - 31 May 2005 19:44 GMT
> Forgiving me for posting on this maxima forums about altims, but I'm
> sure this issue is related. My wife has a 98 Altima automatic. She parks
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>
> CD

No, you have a bad connection, nothing to do with not using the ebrake.
jmattis@attglobal.net - 31 May 2005 21:44 GMT
The thud is caused by the parking prawl in the tranny disengaging while
it is under a lot of force.  It does not do it any good, but the only
thing that happens if it breaks is that the car goes downhill.  It
would not affect the starting.

You should gently reinforce the idea of using the parking brake.  It
keeps the cable and mechanism from freezing up from corrosion, and
depending on the car, is also responsible for adjustment of the rear
brakes.  So if you don't want to find that the parking brake is frozen
when you need it, and don't want to cause accelerated wear on the front
brakes, the parking brake should be used.
David Efflandt - 01 Jun 2005 00:38 GMT
> So I'm wondering, what is she perhaps wearing out prematurely, the
> neutral safety switch? And am I right in guessing that her parking
> habits are probably responsible for the starting troubles that have
> recently developed?

While I have a manual shift 95 Maxima, I did need to have the neutral
switch replaced when my backup lights stopped working.  So it is possible
that the neutral switch can wear, or is being pulled enough out of contact
from force on the park pawl when not using parking brake.  When that
happens, see if putting it in neutral helps with starting.

However, I also had more recent trouble with my ignition switch for quite
some time.  Sometimes I would turn it, and nothing would happen, unless I
jiggled the key while turning it.  I just had the ignition switch
replaced today, and it seems more solid (did not involve changing the
key).

One thing to watch for is that the parking brake cable may eventually
stick due to ice or corrosion if you live in an area that salts roads in
winter.  My rear brakes never wore out until the parking brake cable
started sticking.  So I try to minimize use of the parking brake in
extremely cold weather unless parking on a steep hill, and make sure that
it releases.
Steve T - 02 Jun 2005 07:35 GMT
> Forgiving me for posting on this maxima forums about altims, but I'm
> sure this issue is related. My wife has a 98 Altima automatic. She parks
> on the hill often and never uses the parking brake. I told her that it
> could be bad because PARK isn't really meant to hold a car on a hill.

Actually it is designed for that.

> It
> can do it, but that's not its job. Recently, she developed starting
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> from PARK to DRIVE, PARK dis-engages with a strong thud. I think that's
> not good.

I've NEVER seen a parking pawl fail or need repairs in 30 years of working
on cars as a pro.

> So I'm wondering, what is she perhaps wearing out prematurely, the
> neutral safety switch?

What she is "wearing out" will easily outlast the car even if it went
500,000 miles.

> And am I right in guessing that her parking
> habits are probably responsible for the starting troubles that have
> recently developed?

You are WRONG in guessing this, now go apologize for blaming this on her..
The switch (or whatever it is, probably a bad starter) just broke.

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rpl - 02 Jun 2005 16:20 GMT
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> I've NEVER seen a parking pawl fail or need repairs in 30 years of working
> on cars as a pro.

Twice -   under warranty on a 1978 Ford Fairmont, 6 cyl, auto,  (mom's car).
bought new.
               actually driven by a little old grey haired lady in her
70's.
Steve T - 03 Jun 2005 00:53 GMT
> OT -  j
>
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>                 actually driven by a little old grey haired lady in her
> 70's.

So they say. Seems odd doesn't it that this would "fail" twice on the same
car? Bet it was a shift linkage issue..
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Codifus - 03 Jun 2005 16:24 GMT
>>Forgiving me for posting on this maxima forums about altims, but I'm
>>sure this issue is related. My wife has a 98 Altima automatic. She parks
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> You are WRONG in guessing this, now go apologize for blaming this on her..
> The switch (or whatever it is, probably a bad starter) just broke.

Fair enough. I'll go apologize to the wifey:)

CD
 
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