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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / June 2005

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You_Know_Who~ - 07 Jun 2005 14:28 GMT
Have an 03 max bought new.  Live in Massachusetts and do not have a garage.
I plan to keep this vehicle for a long time.  All work is done by local
dealer. Car does 85% highway driving.  I change oil and filters every 5k.
Car has needed no repairs, but I replaced tires, front brakes and rotors at
60K and, on advice of dealer, replaced belts at 65k.

Am wondering about transmission fluid, coolant and spark plugs.  Should I go
by the manual or do those earlier? Anything else?

tia
David Geesaman - 07 Jun 2005 14:43 GMT
Coolant every year, no flush, just replace.

Spark plugs at 30k or 60k depending on price.  OEM only for me.  Since the
ignition coils are on the plugs, very little need to replace plug wires.

Transmission fluid every 60k or 4 years.  Replace only, no flush.

Alignment / balance every 30k/2years, rotate tires every 5k.  Buy *good*
tires and replace before they reach the wear bars.

Bleed brakes every 5 years.  New battery at 5 years, inspect ground cables.

That covers many of the common issues with an aging car before they tend to
fail.  Some of the parts I'd consider replacing anytime a mechanic is 'in
the area' doing other work once the car is over 100k.  It depends on whether
a breakdown is a major problem vs. an inconvenience.  Those are:
- starter
- alternator
- water pump
- clutch (incl. pilot and t/o bearing, incl. flywheel resurfacing)

IMO, the better/more frequent tires are a great investment in comfort and
safety.  Often overlooked.

Dave

> Have an 03 max bought new.  Live in Massachusetts and do not have a
> garage.
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> tia
JimV - 07 Jun 2005 21:09 GMT
> Coolant every year, no flush, just replace.
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> Dave

This is a good list, except I change my batteries every 3-4 years in the
northeast. They seldom make it to 5 with the cold winters.

-jim
Bill G - 08 Jun 2005 04:54 GMT
> Coolant every year, no flush, just replace.
>
> Spark plugs at 30k or 60k depending on price.  OEM only for me.  Since the
> ignition coils are on the plugs, very little need to replace plug wires.
>
> Transmission fluid every 60k or 4 years.  Replace only, no flush.

Not frequent enough.  I'd do it every 30k.

Bill G
'91 SE Auto
Steve T - 08 Jun 2005 07:16 GMT
>> Coolant every year, no flush, just replace.
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> Not frequent enough.  I'd do it every 30k.

I agree. Tranny fluid changes are cheap enough to do this often and sure
isn't going to hurt anything. I also don't care for the "flush", just a
drain and fill.

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floatingbyastream - 07 Jun 2005 17:17 GMT
> Have an 03 max bought new.  Live in Massachusetts and do not have a garage.
> I plan to keep this vehicle for a long time.  All work is done by local
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> tia

Myself I have the radiator coolant flushed every three years by a real radiator
repair shop not the Nissan dealer. Also if you plan on keeping your maxima
having the transmission fluid flushed and filter changed is a good idea. Getting
a real tune up depends on how you think your maxima is running and how much
money you care to spend. There are also O2 sensors that have a habit of failing
you will sometime get a check engine light from them. Some items you just have
to depend on the dealer to guide you. Good Luck.
Steve T - 08 Jun 2005 07:19 GMT
> Myself I have the radiator coolant flushed every three years by a real
> radiator repair shop not the Nissan dealer. Also if you plan on keeping
> your maxima having the transmission fluid flushed and filter changed is a
> good idea.

Tranny filters normally need no service on modern cars. most use a screen
rather than a paper filter and I've never seen one give a problem even when
the trans was self destructing. A basic fluid drain and fill every 15-30K
(depending on conditions) should work fine .

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rpl - 08 Jun 2005 19:35 GMT
Why important to have tranny fluid changed every 30,000 ?

> > Myself I have the radiator coolant flushed every three years by a real
> > radiator repair shop not the Nissan dealer. Also if you plan on keeping
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David Geesaman - 08 Jun 2005 20:10 GMT
Automatic transmissions espeically have trouble if the oil breaks down or
fills with dirt.  One driving session that builds a lot of heat in the
tranny can 'burn' the oil (i.e. long uphill) and changing this oil out
extends the life of the tranny.

I personally feel it's cheaper and better to simply pay for a drain/replace
rather than that flushing procedure.  It can be argued either way that
flushing is good for completely cleaning the tranny or bad for shaking
things up too much.  Either way, it costs money and a drain/replace takes
care of the most important issues.

Like the others said, once every 60k is probably on the high side - every
30k is really the best way to see that your auto tranny lasts a long time.

Dave

> Why important to have tranny fluid changed every 30,000 ?
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Steve T - 09 Jun 2005 07:33 GMT
> Why important to have tranny fluid changed every 30,000 ?

Go price a rebuilt one and you'll see why doing this every 30K is a smart
thing.. Most places get WAY over $2000 to do these..
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rpl - 09 Jun 2005 15:03 GMT
Sorry about my question.   I guess I did not phrase the question in the way
I meant.
I wanted to know why they don't last.

Back in the 60's I had 1958 Plymouth Belvedere (sp) car with 318 engine with
auto tranny.  I put a hitch on the back of the car and used it to pull
wagons, etc around on the farm.  I dont remember ever changing the tranny
fluid and I put over a 100,000 miles on the car.  Changed the engine oil
every 3000 miles.   The reason I stopped using  the car was body rust (
minnesota winters).  The engine and tranny still ran good, only used about a
quart of engine oil every 3000 miles.

so, with current SE's,
1.  is the auto tranny just not built well ?
2.  is the fluid much poorer quality ?
3.  design flaw ?
4.  ???

> > Why important to have tranny fluid changed every 30,000 ?
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Codifus - 09 Jun 2005 17:40 GMT
> Sorry about my question.   I guess I did not phrase the question in the way
> I meant.
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I don't think it's so much that today's cars are not built well, it's
more of a case where the older cars were just over-built. With so much
that was not known about automotive engineering, you just err on the
safe side and build it bigger, stronger etc, that way you have evrything
covered. Of course this leads to over-sized and in-efficient vehicles,
which most, if not all, cars of the 60s were.

Today's cars are built to more exacting standards today. Carmakers like
Nissan know the market they want, and then they build the car to suit.
Let's see, 5+ passengers, extra roomy, with enthusiastic power plant,
good crusing capability, all weather friendliness, high output V6, let's
build a Maxima:) They fiddles with the cimputer work up and plant
requirements etc and lo and behold, the image becomes reality.

In a case such as yours where you use the car for towing, the Maxima was
buit to do that, but not very well, probably because most people who own
Maximas usually dont use them for towing. But say, those who own a Dodge
RAM will have a much much higher liklihood of using the truck for
towing, so Chrylser will make sure that the truck has the towing part
well covered.

CD
jmattis@attglobal.net - 09 Jun 2005 19:17 GMT
Actually, in that era Chryslers were known to have absolutely
bullet-proof transmissions.  No longer the case.
Steve T - 10 Jun 2005 00:43 GMT
> Sorry about my question.   I guess I did not phrase the question in the
> way I meant.
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> wagons, etc around on the farm.  I dont remember ever changing the tranny
> fluid and I put over a 100,000 miles on the car.

Several things come to mind, you got lucky, those trany' were overbuilt
(probably a cast iron case etc) and if it had torn up, they were simple to
rebuild. Also probably ran at much lower temps which has a HUGE effect on
fluid life.

> so, with current SE's,
> 1.  is the auto tranny just not built well ?
> 2.  is the fluid much poorer quality ?
> 3.  design flaw ?
> 4.  ???

Well you can roll the dice and see what happens. It just seems foolish to me
to attempt to save less that $100 over the life of the car to risk several
thousand.

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rpl - 10 Jun 2005 04:58 GMT
> > Sorry about my question.   I guess I did not phrase the question in the
> > way I meant.
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> rebuild. Also probably ran at much lower temps which has a HUGE effect on
> fluid life.

so -    would adding a tranny cooler system to a max be a good idea?

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jmattis@attglobal.net - 07 Jun 2005 21:15 GMT
And keep waxing that paint.  Two or three times a year will protect
your resale value.  Spray the underside with lots of water after
winter, and try to control the salt damage as best you can.
floatingbyastream - 07 Jun 2005 21:31 GMT
> And keep waxing that paint.  Two or three times a year will protect
> your resale value.  Spray the underside with lots of water after
> winter, and try to control the salt damage as best you can.

I second this process. It's what I have always done and it seems to help
keep the finish looking good and the metal from rusting away.
You_Know_Who~ - 07 Jun 2005 21:38 GMT
Thanks for the responses.  I did get good tires from tirerack.com and you've
given me some good tips on keeping things going.  I love the car... its a
keeper.
b

> > And keep waxing that paint.  Two or three times a year will protect
> > your resale value.  Spray the underside with lots of water after
> > winter, and try to control the salt damage as best you can.
>
> I second this process. It's what I have always done and it seems to help
> keep the finish looking good and the metal from rusting away.
Codifus - 08 Jun 2005 20:13 GMT
> Thanks for the responses.  I did get good tires from tirerack.com and you've
> given me some good tips on keeping things going.  I love the car... its a
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>>I second this process. It's what I have always done and it seems to help
>>keep the finish looking good and the metal from rusting away.

Concerning coolant, does it make sense to stick with the Japanese style,
non-silicate coolant such as OEM Nissan and Toyota, or can we just go
ahead and drop prestone in with all its silicates?

Even though the Japanese non-silicate coolant is a more expensive, I
tend to go that route since the water pump in the Maxima is buried in
the timing cover and is quite a challenge to replace once it fails. And
you have-to change the oil, as well.

CD
 
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