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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / July 2006

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91 Max GXE died

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genius@socal.rr.com - 26 Jun 2006 15:41 GMT
Hey everyone,

I am need of your expertise yet again.  My 91 Max (195K), 5 spd just
died last Thursday.  I presumed it was the timing belt as it has 120k
on that belt.  I got it towed home and upon further inspection it was
not the belt (the distributor rotor turned while cranking).  I then
found I had no spark.  After 2 days of searching, it turned out to be
the ECM fuse.  I replaced the 10amp fuse and it fired right up.  So my
question is, what could cause the fuse to blow?  Is it possible it just
got weak after 200k miles and 16 years?  Do I have a chaffed wire
somewhere that is grounding out?  This is the first time this has
happened and I am not sure where to look.

TIA,

Derek
Wiikinki - 27 Jun 2006 07:24 GMT
What ? fuse (fuses listed: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/5

"...got weak after 200k miles and 16 years?  Do I have a chaffed wire...
- mayb
- maybe fuse just gave ou
- do a 'harness tuneup', see page 1

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Codifus - 27 Jun 2006 13:25 GMT
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Seems like a bad ground connection. Your car is 15 years old therefor
alot of electrical connectons  are bound to get rusty. I would
check/clean the major ground connections like the black wire at the
alternator, the ignition wire to the starter etc.

Also, I'm pretty sure, like 90%, that your car has a timing chain. Most
Nissan motors are timing chain driven, and hence almost never need
changing unless that car's been severely abused and/or badly maintained.

CD
genius@socal.rr.com - 27 Jun 2006 14:45 GMT
Thanks for the tip.  I was almost positive this car had a belt and was
worried since I let it go so long.  I'll have to look into this more,
but thanks for the insight.

Derek

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AS - 28 Jun 2006 02:21 GMT
91 GXE has a belt if i am not mistaken.  The SE had chains.

> Thanks for the tip.  I was almost positive this car had a belt and was
> worried since I let it go so long.  I'll have to look into this more,
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Codifus - 28 Jun 2006 23:07 GMT
> 91 GXE has a belt if i am not mistaken.  The SE had chains.
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AS is correct;

http://www.courtesyparts.com/J30_timing.html

My bad.

CD
Wiikinki - 27 Jun 2006 20:16 GMT
.. almost positive this car had a belt and wa
worried ..
Distributor = yes = VG30E = belt = ...stay worried until changed..

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genius@socal.rr.com - 11 Jul 2006 20:14 GMT
Hey All,

Want to run this by the gurus in here and see what they think.  I
replaced my ECM fuse, checked all wiring that I could and found no
issues.  Even paid the mechanic 1 hour labor to look also.  Fuse hasn't
blown yet so I have my fingers crossed.  The car did die again last
week and this time it was due to lack of cranking voltage so when you
hit the key to start, all lights went out, you heard some fizzing, etc.
Found the positive cable to the starter was slightly loose so I
jingled it and it fired right up.  When I got back home, I thoroughly
tightened the battery cables, cleaned the terminals, etc.  What are the
chances that loose cable could have caused the EMC fuse to blow?

TIA again,

Derek

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Codifus - 11 Jul 2006 21:43 GMT
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Definitely a jiggling starter cable, especially any high current wire
like the starter, alternator, etc could be enough to spike the voltage
and blow the fuse.

CD
genius@socal.rr.com - 11 Jul 2006 22:00 GMT
Thanks CD.  I hope that was it.  Both issues happened within 1 week/25
miles of each other.

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Wiikinki - 15 Jul 2006 09:42 GMT
..what could cause the fuse to blow?
.. weak after 200k miles and 16 years..
- u said i

Fuse is to protect for overload. Loose supply cable/spiking cannot cause overload ...however...  at startup a device draws max pwr -and- THAT may blow a fuse... if/when a fuse is bad and/or too small (Note: Playin with supply cable Possibly causes that startup

15A fuse wont 'hurt' - it will stand the start spike better...

One reason may be oxidized connectors, also at fuses. Volvo recommends contact grease on fuses - works on Nissans too... See link p14 below

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Wiikinki - 18 Jul 2006 08:32 GMT
From ECU/Fuse point of view, its all the same if u play with batt cable -or- ign key. All 'it' sees is pwr/nopwr... and surge start spike. That may blow fuse if fuse is 'too small' from the beginning

Components do change/degrade during lifetime and may start drawing more current. Ambient conditions (heat, humidity) add to that. For example  ECU has the pwr consuming driver circuits for injector coils, their pwr consumption varies as pedal is pressed..

I think the 10Afuse is quite 'on the edge' all the time... so...try that next size =15A fuse

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