My Bose radio died a few years ago and I'm just getting around to
replacing it with a radio / cd player / mp3 player that I bought at
Wal-Mart this morning, Virtual Reality Sound VR3 CD Player.
I bought the wiring adaptor and the converter for speaker level to line
level and hooked everything up. But the radio won't come on. I know
there's switched power since I can turn on the amps and I can play
music via my mp3 player directly.
I'm thinking that the problem might be with the ground. My questions
are:
1 - Will the lack of ground prevent the radio from powering up?
2 - If I need to find a ground where's the best place? I tried
connecting to the screw that held the old radio in place and the
outside of the cigarette lighter.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
JimV - 23 Jul 2006 00:24 GMT
> My Bose radio died a few years ago and I'm just getting around to
> replacing it with a radio / cd player / mp3 player that I bought at
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> Thanks,
> Joe
Yes, it won't come on without a ground. But the outside of the cigarette
lighter is always ground as is likely the screw holding the radio in.
You said you had switched power, but do you have the constant +12 wired
as well?
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 00:28 GMT
> Yes, it won't come on without a ground. But the outside of the cigarette
> lighter is always ground as is likely the screw holding the radio in.
> You said you had switched power, but do you have the constant +12 wired
> as well?
Yes, I have both switched and constant. I have the constant wire going
to the radio's memory wire.
So you're saying that either location should be a good ground?
Thanks!
Joe
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 00:29 GMT
> Yes, it won't come on without a ground. But the outside of the cigarette
> lighter is always ground as is likely the screw holding the radio in.
> You said you had switched power, but do you have the constant +12 wired
> as well?
Yes, I have both switched and constant. I have the constant wire going
to the radio's memory wire.
So you're saying that either location should be a good ground?
Thanks!
Joe
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 01:04 GMT
Another quick question:
If I wired up the radio without a ground could the radio be damaged?
Thanks!
Joe
JimV - 23 Jul 2006 01:26 GMT
> Another quick question:
>
> If I wired up the radio without a ground could the radio be damaged?
>
> Thanks!
> Joe
No, that won't hurt it. If you have power to both the constant and
switched and a ground connection, I'd say it's probably defective. Take
it under the hood, tie the constant and switched leads together. Hold
them on the + battery terminal and touch the case of the radio to the -
terminal. If it still doesn't come on, it's bad.
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 01:50 GMT
Thanks Jim!
I already returned one today to Wal-Mart because I thought it was
defective. Might be it was just a ground problem.
Joe
> > Another quick question:
> >
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> them on the + battery terminal and touch the case of the radio to the -
> terminal. If it still doesn't come on, it's bad.
gary - 23 Jul 2006 03:25 GMT
In my Nissans screwing the radio in (mounting) grounded it, also the antenna
connection would ground it.
Gary K
> My Bose radio died a few years ago and I'm just getting around to
> replacing it with a radio / cd player / mp3 player that I bought at
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> Joe
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 05:21 GMT
Thanks Gary. Were these Bose radios or replacements?
Joe
> In my Nissans screwing the radio in (mounting) grounded it, also the antenna
> connection would ground it.
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> > Thanks,
> > Joe
Wiikinki - 23 Jul 2006 08:04 GMT
Note that some stupid CD players consume up to 0.14A in sleep mode. That means dead batt if parked for weeks... (Two pwr supply wires, one for mem settings, one run-pwr via ign key ...is one indication. Manuals were ashamed of warning about pwr consumption.
Ol radio was connected directly, no need for key to get player on. My new USB player one cannot be, or batt will die: to listen, always ign key has to be turned
Good ground is also found on the surroundin dash metal structure
--
Wiikinki
www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/
AS - 23 Jul 2006 14:26 GMT
In the 1994 Maxima, I brought the Alpine head unit ground wire to one of
the screws that holds the original radio bracket in place, thus
grounding it.
> My Bose radio died a few years ago and I'm just getting around to
> replacing it with a radio / cd player / mp3 player that I bought at
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> Joe
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 22:25 GMT
I tried JimV's suggestion and connected the radio directly to the
battery and it came on.
I knew there was power on the switched wire but I never checked for
power on the constant 12v. I connected the switched power wire to both
switched and constant leads on the radio and again it came one.
So it looks like the constant power wire is dead. Does anyone know
where I can tap into constant power on any of the other wires in the
radio area?
THANKS again for everybody's help.
Joe
JimV - 23 Jul 2006 22:27 GMT
> I tried JimV's suggestion and connected the radio directly to the
> battery and it came on.
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>
> Joe
Cigarette lighter would work.
AS - 23 Jul 2006 22:37 GMT
Maybe your original radio did not die. Have you checked the fuses to
see why the constant power wire is dead?
> My Bose radio died a few years ago and I'm just getting around to
> replacing it with a radio / cd player / mp3 player that I bought at
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> Joe
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 22:41 GMT
> Maybe your original radio did not die. Have you checked the fuses to
> see why the constant power wire is dead?
My original Bose radio was corroded and not fixable.
I checked the fuses yesterday but not today.
If I use the cigarette lighter does anyone know which wire would have
the power?
Thanks again,
Joe
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 23:15 GMT
FINAL QUESTION
I found the power wire in the cigarette lighter. Not too hard since
there are only 2 wires.
:-)
Can I just cut and splice in a new wire to go to the radio? Do I have
to disconnect the negative connector on the battery or just cut the
wire.
Thanks,
Joe
JimV - 23 Jul 2006 23:27 GMT
> FINAL QUESTION
>
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> Thanks,
> Joe
It would be safer to remove the negative cable first. You had the Bose
system? Did you get an adapter that was made for that? Are you planning
to use the factory speakers? It might not work.
Joe - 23 Jul 2006 23:35 GMT
> You had the Bose
> system? Did you get an adapter that was made for that? Are you planning
> to use the factory speakers? It might not work.
Yes I got the converter from speaker level to line level at Wal-Mart
and got the wiring adaptor from Crutchfield. I tested it out using the
output of an MP3 player after connecting the amp wire to the switched
wire. Sound came out great!
Joe - 24 Jul 2006 01:38 GMT
Looks like I spoke too soon.
Looks like the cigarette power is switched.
Can anyone please point in the right direction to find constant power?
Thanks again,
Joe