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97 Max.  Needs Work @ 150K

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paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 01 Nov 2006 21:58 GMT
Hello All,

PRICE CHECK.....I have a 97 Max with 150K on the clock.  Car doesn't
owe me anything!!!  I haven't put any serious cash into it outside of
normal maintanence.  The car runs great with very little and I mean
little oil usage between changes.  I just changed the oil and noticed
that one of the CV joint boots split.  There's still alot of grease in
there so I assume it just happened.  Anyways, I want to keep the car
and am planning on taking it to have the axles done along with the
front struts.  Can anyone out there provide a ball park figure on this
work?  I plan on getting an estimate sometime this week or early next.
I figure that the work will cost me less than a few car payments.  This
way I should be able to get another year or two out of the car.

Thanks,
Paul
Shines - 01 Nov 2006 22:09 GMT
> Hello All,
>
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> Thanks,
> Paul

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Don't know where you are but will make a guess it will cost around $700
parts and labor.
paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 01 Nov 2006 22:17 GMT
> > Hello All,
> >
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> Don't know where you are but will make a guess it will cost around $700
> parts and labor.

Thanks for the reply Shines.  I'm in the Boston area and I'm looking
for some quality in the parts used.  I assume that Monroe make's strut
assemblies for my car so I'll most likely go with this.  I'm looking to
get out of the shop for under $1000 complete.
Shines - 01 Nov 2006 23:32 GMT
>> > Hello All,
>> >
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> assemblies for my car so I'll most likely go with this.  I'm looking to
> get out of the shop for under $1000 complete.

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Well as you already know everything in and around Boston is not going to be
cheap to get fixed. But I am betting you will get out under 1K this with the
quality parts. Let us know what it ends up costing you. I have a 98 Nissan
Maxima bought it new and it has 12,565 miles on it as of today.
Codifus - 01 Nov 2006 23:41 GMT
> Well as you already know everything in and around Boston is not going to be
> cheap to get fixed. But I am betting you will get out under 1K this with the
> quality parts. Let us know what it ends up costing you. I have a 98 Nissan
> Maxima bought it new and it has 12,565 miles on it as of today.

8 year old car with only 12,565 miles on the odo?

That's 1570 miles a year, or 4 miles a day.

Do you walk to work?

CD
Shines - 02 Nov 2006 00:01 GMT
>> Well as you already know everything in and around Boston is not going to
>> be cheap to get fixed. But I am betting you will get out under 1K this
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>
> CD
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I had a 78 Cordoba bought it new put 65K on it and they were really problem
filled miles. Had it hauled off to junk yard.
Bought a Ford Bronco in 82 with the 5L v8 and that doomed Motercraft 2 bbl.
carb. Got that carb replaced with a sweet holly. it had 45K and runs great.
Oh also a 03 Sorento bought new has 5K.
So I have to put a few miles on them all.
Codifus - 01 Nov 2006 23:35 GMT
> Hello All,
>
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> Thanks,
> Paul

If there's still grease on the joint then all you have to replace is the
boot. Get the boot replaced asap at minimal cost, about $140.

CD
paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 01 Nov 2006 23:44 GMT
> > Hello All,
> >
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>
> CD

Thought about doing that, but with the 150K on the clock and expecting
to do another 100K I feel that the best thing to do is replace the
axels.  I know the struts are shot based on the way the front end
responds to bumps and pot holes.  The tie rods and ball joints are
still tight and in good shape so no need to replace.  Just looking for
a ball park figure from someone who had it done.  Since the wife will
be driving the car, I'd like to make sure that the it's extremly safe.

-paul
Codifus - 01 Nov 2006 23:56 GMT
>>>Hello All,
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>
> -paul

Can't argue about your wife's safety, but since the joint is still
greasy, there really is no need to get it replaced. Also,as a test, with
the windows open and driving through turns, do your hear any clicking
sound? When the CV joints are beginning their decent into complete
failure, it's quite gradual, and it starts with the clicking sound when
you're driving in a turn. I hear clicking on other people's cars all the
time. Just a matter of time I think to myself.

To top it off, I did this very thing in my wife's 98 Altima last year.
car's still running great on the original axles.

CD
paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 02 Nov 2006 00:04 GMT
> >>>Hello All,
> >>>
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>
> CD

No, no clicking, but just the same, I think I'm going to have them
replaced.  The only front end noise that I have is a poping sound.  I
think this is from the struts and will have them replaced.  I have
owned this car since new in 97.  I have done all maintanence and have
had no major failures.  It's a great car and I would like a few more
years out of it.  This will give us enough time to save for another
one.

Thanks......-paul
njmodi - 02 Nov 2006 00:04 GMT
> Thought about doing that, but with the 150K on the clock and expecting
> to do another 100K I feel that the best thing to do is replace the
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>
> -paul

you have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding a nicely
remanned axle - well not quite, but you get my point.  If you want a
quality axle, you gotta go OEM Nissan or try www.raxles.com.  Getting
your local parts store specials will likely result in a lot of
frustration on everybody's part.

I would recomend Tokico strut replacements - they are the OEM for
Nissan and relatively inexpensive.  With that many miles, I recommend
you replace all 4 - parts cost for all 4 corners (front struts, rear
shocks, bearings, boots) should be < $500.  An independent shop may
charge $200-300 for replacement on all 4 corners.  That puts you at 800
bucks already... raxles are not cheap, but definitely cheaper than OEM
nissan replacements... axle replacement will likley run a few hundred
more.  Bottom line, you might be able to stay under 1k, but I think for
1200 bucks or so, you'll definitely be able to get all new suspension
and new quality axles put in.

For another 150k - thats a no brainer :)

Nirav
96 Max GLE, 139k
paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 02 Nov 2006 00:28 GMT
> > Thought about doing that, but with the 150K on the clock and expecting
> > to do another 100K I feel that the best thing to do is replace the
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> Nirav
> 96 Max GLE, 139k

Thanks Nirav.  Were on the same page, but it's alot easier to swallow
when I have an idea up front what it's going to cost.  Rear shocks and
coil looks good so I'm going to hold off for now.  I agree with the
Tokico strut replacements, but will ask for a price on the Monroes
also.  Going with the axles and the struts I think I can have it done
for about 1K, which I can live with.

-paul
paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 02 Nov 2006 00:35 GMT
paul.flansb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Thought about doing that, but with the 150K on the clock and expecting
> > > to do another 100K I feel that the best thing to do is replace the
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>
> -paul

Sorry....Forgot to ask.  Can I get pre-built/assembled struts for the
Max.?
njmodi - 02 Nov 2006 01:02 GMT
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> Sorry....Forgot to ask.  Can I get pre-built/assembled struts for the
> Max.?

Yes - the entire strut comes as a one-piece assembly.  You don't have
to take out your old insert and use a replacement.  In addition to the
strut assembly itself, I would suggest you replace the strut boot and
strut bearing.  If you really want to be trouble free, consider
replacing the strut mount as well - not required though - and a good
mechanic should be able to validate the condition of your existing
mounts.

Cheers,
Nirav
Fred Wilson - 02 Nov 2006 03:26 GMT
I am having both CV's replaced as we speak by a nissan dealer. It is
estimated at $650. I readily accepted that but the water pump about made
me cry. They estimated that in the $650 to $700 range. UUUGGGG. But I
did find out in this group that there is a special antifreeze to be used
in these puppies.

> Hello All,
>
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> Thanks,
> Paul
common_ sense@netscape.com - 02 Nov 2006 04:05 GMT
>I am having both CV's replaced as we speak by a nissan dealer. It is
>estimated at $650. I readily accepted that but the water pump about made
>me cry. They estimated that in the $650 to $700 range. UUUGGGG. But I
>did find out in this group that there is a special antifreeze to be used
>in these puppies.
absolutely,,,

never use anything but the Nissan antifreeze - yes its 15 a gallon,
but its formulated to not corode all the various bi metallic parts of
the system, and you really only need to change it every 3 or 5 years.
Shines - 02 Nov 2006 21:35 GMT
>>I am having both CV's replaced as we speak by a nissan dealer. It is
>>estimated at $650. I readily accepted that but the water pump about made
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> but its formulated to not corode all the various bi metallic parts of
> the system, and you really only need to change it every 3 or 5 years.
====
$15 a gallon you just gotta be kidding. I think the Nissan service Dept.
thugs sold you a barn door of a shafting. Any good quality anti-freeze will
not corode the new cooling systems and they cost around $6 a gal.
njmodi - 02 Nov 2006 21:50 GMT
> ====
> $15 a gallon you just gotta be kidding. I think the Nissan service Dept.
> thugs sold you a barn door of a shafting. Any good quality anti-freeze will
> not corode the new cooling systems and they cost around $6 a gal.

Which locally parts-store anti-freeze do you consider "good-quality",
and do you think meets Nissans silicate-free formulation requirement?

I'm genuinely intersted to know since I plan on doing a radiator flush
this weekend.

As an aside, with 30k intervals, 1 gallon of coolant (which is all that
is needed, since you mix it 50/50) is 0.05 cents per mile... it's not
*really* that bad IMO.  Consider 5 qts of Mobil 1, with a 15k change
interval and the oil is still more expensive ;) over the life of the
car...

Nirav
common_ sense@netscape.com - 03 Nov 2006 00:12 GMT
>> ====
>> $15 a gallon you just gotta be kidding. I think the Nissan service Dept.
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>
>Nirav

Dont you just love the morons on this group, that call you an idiot
for spending 7 extra bucks to get the correct parts for a $30,000
car,,,,

I didnt think I needed to mention the need for silicate free coolant -
something that the 6 dollar "green stuff" at your discount parts store
are loaded with.

But then again Mr Shines wouldnt know a silicate from a fornocate.
paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 03 Nov 2006 01:53 GMT
common_sense@netscape.com wrote:

> >> ====
> >> $15 a gallon you just gotta be kidding. I think the Nissan service Dept.
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>
> But then again Mr Shines wouldnt know a silicate from a fornocate.

No need for name calling.  Were all here to help each other.  So, on my
Max. I have just over 150K.  The car is just about 10yrs old.  I change
the antifreeze every year and used the Prestone and I have yet to
replace anything in the cooling system, outside of the thermostat, and
have not had any issues.  I'll continue to do this until I get rid of
the car in about 2yrs.

-paul
common_ sense@netscape.com - 03 Nov 2006 02:33 GMT
>common_sense@netscape.com wrote:
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>
>-paul

Mr Shine is the one calling the names,,

and for my .05 cents per mile, I will stick with the Nissan factory
certified coolant.

And so,,why did your thermostat go bad,,Hmmmm?

and as they say - your results may vary.
Fred Wilson - 04 Nov 2006 00:16 GMT
I specifically asked the dealer this question about my MAX because they
just replaced the water pump. No indication that it takes special
antifreeze.

>> common_sense@netscape.com wrote:
>>>
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>
> and as they say - your results may vary.
common_ sense@netscape.com - 04 Nov 2006 01:45 GMT
>I specifically asked the dealer this question about my MAX because they
>just replaced the water pump. No indication that it takes special
>antifreeze.

It takes silicate free anti freeze, I think if you go through you
manual you will find that warning. Nissan factory coolant is silicate
free, most OTC stuff is not - use at your own risk. They use factory
coolant, so its no issue for them.
njmodi - 04 Nov 2006 02:17 GMT
common_sense@netscape.com wrote:

> >I specifically asked the dealer this question about my MAX because they
> >just replaced the water pump. No indication that it takes special
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> free, most OTC stuff is not - use at your own risk. They use factory
> coolant, so its no issue for them.

Actually - all the dealers I've asked, just use local bulk coolant
(whatever their local supplier provides).  The only time they use OEM
coolant is for warranty work.  The same is true for other Nissan
recommend fluids, e.g. transmission fluid, etc. etc.

Again YMMV.

Nirav
common_ sense@netscape.com - 04 Nov 2006 02:27 GMT
>common_sense@netscape.com wrote:
>>
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>
>Nirav

Hmmm,,"only for warranty work",,Hmmm Now why would that be,,Hmmmm,,??

My dealer uses Nissan fluids.
Ralph Hertle - 26 Nov 2006 05:08 GMT
> Hello All,
>
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> Thanks,
> Paul

Paul:

I had the axles, CV joints, boots, and bushings replaced on my (100K) 97
Max, and the cost without the extra labor due to wrong parts, and
without the bushings was more than $800. Then there was the extra car
rental time.

While your suspension is being worked on you may want to replace the
worn front suspension control arm and front anti-sway bar stock rubber
bushings with new solid polyurethane bushings offered by EnergySuspension.

That will provide you with a marked improvement in steering precision
and control over uneven roads and in air buffeting from side winds and
semis.

Be sure that they send you the parts with the right part numbers. They
sent me the wrong parts, and the mechanic had to keep my car on the lift
for three extra days while the new parts were sent.

Be sure that you get the special EnergySuspension grease for the
bushings. Otherwise the squeaking sounds made by the bushings will be
most evident.

The cost is low, and the benefit is high. Your mind will be far more at
ease driving with precision.

Ralph Hertle
Edison, NJ
Ralph Hertle - 26 Nov 2006 05:34 GMT
Re: 97 Max.  Needs Work @ 150K

> Hello All,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Thanks,
> Paul

Paul:

I had the axles, CV joints, boots, and bushings replaced on my (100K) 97
Max, and the cost without the extra labor due to wrong parts, and
without the bushings was more than $800. Then there was the extra car
rental time.

While your suspension is being worked on you may want to replace the
worn front suspension control arm and front anti-sway bar stock rubber
bushings with new solid polyurethane bushings offered by EnergySuspension.

That will provide you with a marked improvement in steering precision
and control over uneven roads and in air buffeting from side winds and
semis.

Be sure that they send you the parts with the right part numbers. They
sent me the wrong parts, and the mechanic had to keep my car on the lift
for three extra days while the new parts were sent.

Be sure that you get the special EnergySuspension grease for the
bushings. Otherwise the squeaking sounds made by the bushings will be
most evident.

The cost is low, and the benefit is high. Your mind will be far more at
ease driving with precision.

Ralph Hertle
Edison, NJ
 
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