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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / December 2006

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EMP Vulnerability

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Tom Stoeckle - 03 Dec 2006 23:20 GMT
I've been watching the TV series Jericho and also been reading news stories
of terrorist groups who might explode a high altitude nuclear weapon that
would fry all our electronics and communication.

Does anyone know how to make today's cars (e.g., 2004 Maxima) resistant to
an EMP (would parking in a basement garage provide enough shielding etc)
attacK?
Interesting discussion point.

Tom S
Bill G - 11 Dec 2006 02:25 GMT
> I've been watching the TV series Jericho and also been reading news
> stories
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> an EMP (would parking in a basement garage provide enough shielding etc)
> attacK?

Basement garage would work, provided there was enough lead shielding or it
was deep enough underground.

The best way to protect your electronics is to enclose them in a Faraday
cage.  And as soon as they are commercially available, let us know.

> Interesting discussion point.

I guess, but we'll have much bigger problems if an EMP hits us than whether
our cars will start or not.
BuddyWh - 16 Dec 2006 14:08 GMT
>> Does anyone know how to make today's cars (e.g., 2004 Maxima) resistant to
>> an EMP (would parking in a basement garage provide enough shielding etc)
>> attacK?

>The best way to protect your electronics is to enclose them in a Faraday
>cage.  And as soon as they are commercially available, let us know.

Cars are very susceptable to EMP... as are all home electronics.

Lead shielding would protect against certain types of radiation, but
isn't needed for EMP protection.

If you are really concerned about it you can make your own Faraday
cage for your car inside a garage... basically, make a 2x4 open frame
that surrounds your car and cover it with metal screening... like
copper or galvanized steel screen.  All the sheets of metal screen
have to be very well electrical bonded approximately every 3" or so
(spot solder) along the seams.  You could also buy one of the
all-metal vehicle storage sheds and store it in that, again making
sure there are no gaps and all individual pieces of metal are well
bonded together.

The hardest part to close gaps and ensure it's bonded  will be the
door.

The cage doesn't have to be grounded to work as a Farady cage, but it
is recommended in case it should come in contact with line voltage
(like a frayed extension cord).  It would be better to blow the
fuse/circuit breaker than create a giant piece of uninsulated metal at
115v AC!

You can also buy rolls of plastic sheeting that has a metal film vapor
deposited on it.  Your can then heat-seal the sheets together to form
a giant airtight bag around the car.  Throw a couple pounds of
dessicant in there, suck out the air and back fill it with nitrogen
and you can preserve the car for a pretty long time too!

Survivalists have already thought this one through... check out some
of their web sites and you'll get much better ideas than mine.
common_ sense@netscape.com - 17 Dec 2006 00:36 GMT
>>> Does anyone know how to make today's cars (e.g., 2004 Maxima) resistant to
>>> an EMP (would parking in a basement garage provide enough shielding etc)
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>Survivalists have already thought this one through... check out some
>of their web sites and you'll get much better ideas than mine.

and just think of how much you can enjoy driving around in your Maxima
- as your teeth and hair fall out from radiation sickness...it would
be a glorious 3 days.
BuddyWh - 17 Dec 2006 02:15 GMT
>>>> Does anyone know how to make today's cars (e.g., 2004 Maxima) resistant to
>>>> an EMP (would parking in a basement garage provide enough shielding etc)
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>- as your teeth and hair fall out from radiation sickness...it would
>be a glorious 3 days.

Good point! Made me laugh a little...

But actually there's a very good probability (if you're half lucky and
located upwind and/or half smart and stay in a shelter) that you will
survive for quite a while afterwards.  What's far more likely is the
other surviving mobs will kill you for the car you carefully
protected.  There ain't no cop to call even if your cell phone worked.

And one tactic was to light off monster hydrogen bursts
exo-atmospheric above population/power/communication centers
specifically for the purpose of exploiting EMP effects without the
brick and mortar damage and radiation poisoning effects.
Tom Stoeckle - 17 Dec 2006 07:24 GMT
> >>>> Does anyone know how to make today's cars (e.g., 2004 Maxima) resistant to
> >>>> an EMP (would parking in a basement garage provide enough shielding etc)
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> specifically for the purpose of exploiting EMP effects without the
> brick and mortar damage and radiation poisoning effects.

Actually, my idea was to preserve the car to use as a power source -- eg.,
electical power to charge batteries etc.  I agree that driving around after
any type of disaster would be disasterous with unruly mobs etc.
common_ sense@netscape.com - 18 Dec 2006 02:07 GMT
>> >>>> Does anyone know how to make today's cars (e.g., 2004 Maxima)
>resistant to
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>electical power to charge batteries etc.  I agree that driving around after
>any type of disaster would be disasterous with unruly mobs etc.

was out looking at my Maxima, thinking, what could I eat ...??

Thinking that the head liner might be mighty tasty...-:)

and that tire jack the car comes with - nice for wacking your (tastey)
nieghbors in the head with,,,-:)

Lets all pray that something like this never happens.

and Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to all - even if you are not
smart enough to own an EMP proof, Maxima, with a edible head liner,
and multi purpose tire jack  -:)
Richard Tomkins - 18 Dec 2006 06:29 GMT
There used to be, and maybe still is, an EMP Test Structure located
somewhere near Albuquerque, New Mexico.

I saw it there while flying in to the airport on a bright sunny day.

There is a picture of the Trestle in the URL below as well as some other
neat stuff.

Some great pictures here.

rtt

http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/6odd-eyeball.htm

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