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03 Max a gas guzzler?

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aly78 - 10 Mar 2007 16:55 GMT
Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
Accord 4cyl!!).  I've put about 2K km on it so far.

I have a major concern regarding fuel consumption:  I am consistently
getting <400 Km to the tank.  I've filled up 5 times since getting it
and always with premium.  The best return to the tank was 380km with
about 25 km left according to the DTE calculator.  Assuming 400km
(optimistic on my part) to the tank 60L(70L capacity) (60L=never
completely drained the tank).

I know my reasoning/calculation leaves something to be desired, but
work with me!  60L/400km=15L/100km or 15.8mpg (at 3.78L/gal)

Is this what other '03 SE owners are getting or is there something
wrong wit my ride?

Variables:  85% City driving. Work is <10min drive from home, Winter
idling in the morning (factor??), driving style= medium (gear shifts b/
w 3500-4500 rpm), but I have opened it up a few times :]]
The car's fuel efficiency gauge/calculator  does not change = constant
9.6L/100km

I would really appreciate other owner's responses/comments/experiences
especially '03 model year.
Thanks
JimV - 10 Mar 2007 17:32 GMT
It's the 85% city driving that's killing your MPG. Idling uses a lot
more fuel on a 6 cyl and it's a pretty heavy car.

> Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
> K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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> especially '03 model year.
> Thanks
aly78 - 10 Mar 2007 18:17 GMT
> It's the 85% city driving that's killing your MPG. Idling uses a lot
> more fuel on a 6 cyl and it's a pretty heavy car.
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So is this normal Jim?  My mpg is no way near that reported by other
users or Nissan, in general by most other owners ie B/w 19-21 mpg for
city driving.  Will it improve in the summer time?  What year model do
u have and what is your avg mpg?
Thanks
JimV - 10 Mar 2007 20:43 GMT
>> It's the 85% city driving that's killing your MPG. Idling uses a lot
>> more fuel on a 6 cyl and it's a pretty heavy car.
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> u have and what is your avg mpg?
> Thanks

I get about 25 on the highway and about 16 in the city on my '02.
aly78 - 10 Mar 2007 21:56 GMT
> >> It's the 85% city driving that's killing your MPG. Idling uses a lot
> >> more fuel on a 6 cyl and it's a pretty heavy car.
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Thanks.  Based on your response I guess that I'm on par.  I don't know
how many miles u have, but did u ever see ~20 mpg in the city? And
does your fuel efficiency calc (trip computer) change or is it just 1
constant reading?
MGB - 11 Mar 2007 04:54 GMT
> Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
> K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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> especially '03 model year.
> Thanks

I've got the same car with about the same amount of km's on it.  I'm getting
the same mileage as you're indicating in the city and on the hwy.

Nice car, but heavy on fuel.  Lots of horsepower there though.  You always
pay for power.
aly78 - 12 Mar 2007 00:20 GMT
> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
> > K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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Yeah but I thought that the VQV6 is a pretty (fuel) efficient engine?
I know a couple of people with '05 Altimas (3.5L, same engine right?)
and they report 600km to the tank (406 miles) highway mileage.

On a side note, I had rented a Ford Explorer (Triton? V8) for a couple
of weeks and that returned approx 550 Km to the tank (`75L I think?).
Charles G. Hill - 12 Mar 2007 02:56 GMT
For lo, "aly78" <alysamji@aol.com> hath proclaimed:
> Yeah but I thought that the VQV6 is a pretty (fuel) efficient engine?
> I know a couple of people with '05 Altimas (3.5L, same engine right?)
> and they report 600km to the tank (406 miles) highway mileage.

I have a 2000 I30 with the 3-liter version of the V6, and I get a
fairly-consistent 27-28 mpg on the highway, which is a bit short
of 12 km/liter.  In town, 21 mpg, except when it's *very* cold,
when it drops to 19 or so.
codifus - 12 Mar 2007 12:33 GMT
> > "aly78" <alysa...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
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> On a side note, I had rented a Ford Explorer (Triton? V8) for a couple
> of weeks and that returned approx 550 Km to the tank (`75L I think?).

Keep in mind that with a 10 minute commute in winter, your car spends
more time warming up than actually operating at normal temperature,
and in warmup mode all cars are very in-efficient.

CD
MGB - 12 Mar 2007 13:00 GMT
>> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
>> > K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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> On a side note, I had rented a Ford Explorer (Triton? V8) for a couple
> of weeks and that returned approx 550 Km to the tank (`75L I think?).

Sorry, I didn't clarify, I get under 400 KM per tank in the city and about
600 KM per tank on the highway.  Big difference, for obvious reasons.  If
you aren't getting about 600 KM on the highway, then I would think something
is wrong...  At 110Km/hour the engine is revving about 2500 rpm. (4 speed
automatic)
common_ sense@netscape.com - 12 Mar 2007 22:51 GMT
>>> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
>>> > K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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>is wrong...  At 110Km/hour the engine is revving about 2500 rpm. (4 speed
>automatic)

I hate to post this,,,but is the entire world mathematically
challenged,,??

Fill the dam tank,,,

drive until its about 1/4..

fill it again,,,

and divide the number of miles, or Kms, by the number of gallons or
liters you just bought- to come up with the GAS MILEAGE/Kms>>>!!!!

the number of whatever per "tank full" is
meaningless,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have seen this same idiotic post over and over and over on this
group - learn to use a calculator people - the number per tank full is
meaningless,,,,,
MGB - 13 Mar 2007 03:56 GMT
>>>> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
>>>> > K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive
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> group - learn to use a calculator people - the number per tank full is
> meaningless,,,,,

If you can't handle the simplicity of the conversation, keep your math to
yourself.  If I wanted more math, I'd finish my PhD in electrical
engineering.

Most people who drive a car can relate to the jist of the conversation
above.  It's unfortunate that you can't.
common_ sense@netscape.com - 15 Mar 2007 05:08 GMT
>>>>> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
>>>>> > K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive
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>Most people who drive a car can relate to the jist of the conversation
>above.  It's unfortunate that you can't.

the conversation is simplistic to the point of being idiotic,,,

you can not determine fuel mileage by using "distance per
tankful",,,,!!!!

The gas gauge is at best plus or minus 20 percent,,,

You do not need a PHD to perform the calculation to get an accurate
gas mileage,,,8th grade will do fine - something you apear to lack,.
MGB - 17 Mar 2007 15:31 GMT
>>>>>> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with
>>>>>> > 46
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> You do not need a PHD to perform the calculation to get an accurate
> gas mileage,,,8th grade will do fine - something you apear to lack,.

Yes, apparently you're the anal rocket scientist in the bunch who takes
these conversations a little too seriously.

I guess you have to troll through the newsgroups and critique postings so
you can appear in your own mind as smarter than someone else?

Not worth continuing this posting since we've discovered the troll.
common_ sense@netscape.com - 21 Mar 2007 23:48 GMT
>>>>>>> > Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with
>>>>>>> > 46
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>
>Not worth continuing this posting since we've discovered the troll.

Your calling me a Troll,,,ROTFL.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get a life moron....
aly78 - 13 Mar 2007 05:46 GMT
On Mar 12, 6:48 pm, common_ s...@netscape.com wrote:

> >>> "aly78" <alysa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Thank you.  I will begin this practice from now on to get a more
precise figure rather than a ballpark.
BTW, Re-setting the trip odometer b/w the following steps you outlined
would further assist those mathematically challenged
>Fill the dam tank,,,
RESET trip odo
> drive until its about 1/4..
common_ sense@netscape.com - 15 Mar 2007 05:15 GMT
>On Mar 12, 6:48 pm, common_ s...@netscape.com wrote:
>>
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> RESET trip odo
>> drive until its about 1/4..

you got it .....and if you use the trip OD as you state its even
easier,,,,

not attacking you btw - this same post in different form must have
come up a dozen time - you simply can not calculate fuel mileage based
on distance per tankfull - the gas gage is at best plus or minus 20
percent,,

and no you do not need a PHD to do this simple calculation,,???????

my 2000 gets 18 to 19 in the city, and 26 to 28 mpg on the highway -
your more powerfull car may get less, as will it if your in a very
cold climate.
aly78 - 17 Mar 2007 23:00 GMT
On Mar 12, 6:48 pm, common_ s...@netscape.com wrote:

> >>> "aly78" <alysa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Ya know, I had seen an irritated posting similar to yours (a few
actually) in regards to calculating ACTUAL fuel economy.(not sure if
it was you?)while searching this group for info prior to posting.  In
fact, my lttle blerb with regards to "my calculations leave a little
something to be desired.....work with me etc...) were directed to/
made with the subscriber(s?) who find this simple method quite
ANNOYING, in mind.  Didn't think it would bee such a PEEVE,
nonetheless I appreciate your input with regards to your gas mileage.
William Mastop - 13 Mar 2007 15:53 GMT
I've got a 2003 maxima, and your mileage is a bit on the poor side, but not
lots.  I average about 9 to 10  litres per 100 kilometres.  Try resetting
the fuel effeciency calculator - you reset it by holding down the trip
button on the steering wheel while you are looking at the fuel effeciency
calculator.  I think that it tends to average the consumption since the last
reset, and it's hard to get it to change much if you have not reset it in a
long time.
Idling in the morning will certainly have a bad effect on your milage, a
really bad effect.  City driving - the stop light to stop light stuff - sure
doesn't not help either.  If I'm doing almost all city driving, it may top
out 1t about 12.5 litres per 100 kilometres.  If it's pretty much all
highway then 9 is about what it settles at.

Regards - great car!
William

> Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
> K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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> getting <400 Km to the tank.  I've filled up 5 times since getting it
> and always with premium.  The best return to the tank was 380km with
aly78 - 14 Mar 2007 02:45 GMT
> I've got a 2003 maxima, and your mileage is a bit on the poor side, but not
> lots.  I average about 9 to 10  litres per 100 kilometres.  Try resetting
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Thank you all for your responses, I appreciate it.  I feel a little
more secure now, knowing that my fuel economy is not totally off,
however i'd still like to improve it  I'll try re-setting the fuel
consumption calc ( didn't know how until now, thanks).

Know how to reset the memory seats?

Reading some other threads on this group, I suppose that the previous
owner's driving habits and the grade of fuel they used might play a
factor in the poor results right now.  If lower grade fuel was used on
a repetitive basis previously (now using premium)  anyone know how
long it would take for the benefits to be seen in improved MPG?

Thans,
Aly
PK - 16 Mar 2007 18:20 GMT
I have a 2003 3-liter manual Max (200 hp here in Europe), and I never get my
average fuel consumption above 12 l / 100 km even though I drive like a
maniac most of the time.
The lowest figure I've reached was 7,2 l / 100 km on a 170 km trip, 1/3 of
which was 80 km/h and the rest 110 km/h average (GPS figure, not
speedometer)...and with winter tires. Of course the auto tranny in your Max
explains the difference to some extent, but 15 l / 100 km....?
I think you should have your car checked by a mechanic.

Great car btw. :-)

"aly78" <alysamji@aol.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:1173545746.660893.139370@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hey maxima fans, just bought my first Max, an '03 Max SE auto with 46
> K km.  I've had it for 2 months now and am impressed (used to drive an
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> especially '03 model year.
> Thanks
 
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