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'99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?

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Tom Yakulis - 25 Feb 2008 02:48 GMT
Hi all,
I drive a '99 Se 5speed that just hit 120K miles. I was wondering what parts
typically fail and should be replaced around this mileage.
Thanks
E Meyer - 25 Feb 2008 16:09 GMT
On 2/24/08 8:48 PM, in article U%pwj.3532$tW.148@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com, "Tom
Yakulis" <yakulis@ameritech.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I drive a '99 Se 5speed that just hit 120K miles. I was wondering what parts
> typically fail and should be replaced around this mileage.
> Thanks

Front suspension will be getting soft: bushings, struts, mounts.  Unless
something fails outright, this is insidious - you don't notice it unless you
drive another car with fresher suspension parts.

In the engine:
- valve cover gaskets are hard by now & probably leaking.
- you should be ordering the second set of spark plugs right about now.
- Check around the timing chain cover for oil leaks & water pump seepage.
- If you haven't been regularly changing trans fluid, its pretty rank by
now. Same with the engine coolant.
- Radiator cap has probably failed.  If/when you replace it, look for some
component in the cooling system (radiator, heater core, hose) to fail in
about 6 months due to the restoration of pressure.
- Accessory belts are shot unless they've been regularly changed.

There are more.  Look through the maintenance schedules that came with the
car.  Lots of things to check.
David Geesaman - 26 Feb 2008 00:33 GMT
> Hi all,
> I drive a '99 Se 5speed that just hit 120K miles. I was wondering what parts
> typically fail and should be replaced around this mileage.
> Thanks

First, do the 60k maintenance again:
- drain/replace coolant
- new belts
- new OEM platinum plugs
- new fuel filter
- replace gear oil (use Amsoil MTG or Redline MT-90 - both are synthetic
GL-4 75w-90 oils)

Definitely get your transmission inspected.  The 4th gen 5 speeds are
notorious for having problems with differential carrier bearing wear.  A
tranny shop can find it pretty quickly (they just grab the driver side
axle end and see if the diff moves within the tranny housing).  Nissan's
original transmission assembly did not shim most of these trannys
properly, and depending on how badly the bearings were set is how long
the transmission will last.  If your bearings are wearing too fast you
want to catch it early, take it to a manual transmission specialist, and
have them re-shim the diff during the rebuild.  If you procrastinate the
gears/shafts will run misaligned and develop uneven wear and you'll
stand much greater risk of sudden failure.  I say all this about the 5
speed trannys because I've rebuild over a dozen of them and there are
more every day.

There are other things like oil seals and valve cover gaskets that can
develop minor oil leaks.  Just keep an eye out for that - many maximas
go a much longer time than 120k without these leaks and since the leaks
are generally harmless there is no need IMHO to get preventive about it.

Dave
codifus - 27 Feb 2008 00:34 GMT
On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@yahooooo.com>
wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I drive a '99 Se 5speed that just hit 120K miles. I was wondering what parts
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> Dave

I've experienced this 1st hand in my 98 5-speed. The tranny didn't
fail, just got incredibly noisy. When I replaced the clutch at 140K
miles, I also replaced the differential bearings and all was good.

Was the issue fixed in the 2000 thru 2001 5-speed manual trannies? I
remember the Nissan brochure boasting stronger gears in the manual
tranny compared to the 99s and below.

CD
Tom Yakulis - 27 Feb 2008 00:49 GMT
Thanks for the ideas!
> On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@yahooooo.com>
> wrote:
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>
> CD
David Geesaman - 27 Feb 2008 02:40 GMT
> On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@yahooooo.com>
> wrote:
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> CD

I only know of one difference between the 95-99 gears and the 00-01 5
speed gears: slightly modified oil grooving.  Perhaps they improved the
material a little bit, I dunno.  The shafts are definitely the same.  I
haven't rebuilt enough of the 00-01's to determine if they were built
properly, but the couple I've done were correct.

One well-regarded internet source found that when he redid his diff
bearings that he needed a different set of bearing shims.  Assuming his
housings hadn't warped, his postulation that the factory set endplay
wrong is a valid one.

But I think it goes beyond that.  My experience rebuilding 95-99 5
speeds has resulted in a large pile of diff bearing shims in just 3
sizes.  I've never found any other shim size in a stock tranny, although
when I rebuild them the shim sizes I use end up all over the tolerance
range.  (There are over a dozen shim sizes).  My hypothesis, which will
never be known for sure, is that the original tranny builders did not
have the full range of shim sizes onhand to accurately set the diff
bearing endplay.  So if you were lucky your tranny required the shim
sizes that were on hand.  If you were unlucky your tranny needed a much
different shim size and it left the factory with incorrect endplay
setting, doomed to die a premature death.  Some trannys died within the
factory warranty, but most lasted just long enough to die out of
warranty and within the car's typical life.

Most rebuilders will just re-use the shims and not remeasure.  They
aren't aware of this endplay setting problem, because most trannys are
built right in the first place.  Most customers don't want to wait the
extra days to get the correct shim size from Nissan, and it will easily
outlast the 6 month or 12 month rebuilders warranty.  I always measure
until I'm confident I have the endplay within .001", and use the exact
recommended shim size.  To avoid delays I keep almost every shim size on
hand.  (this is only viable because I rebuild 95-01 trannys almost
exclusively)

Dave
Tom Yakulis - 27 Feb 2008 05:31 GMT
Wouldn't these issues have appeared before 120K miles ?

>> On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@yahooooo.com>
>> wrote:
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> Dave
David Geesaman - 27 Feb 2008 10:29 GMT
> Wouldn't these issues have appeared before 120K miles ?

My manual tranny died at 125k.

Dave
Tom Yakulis - 29 Feb 2008 01:19 GMT
Thanks, do you have an idea when the alternator typically needs to be
replaced?
>> Wouldn't these issues have appeared before 120K miles ?
>
> My manual tranny died at 125k.
>
> Dave
David Geesaman - 29 Feb 2008 02:32 GMT
My alt died at 101k, and just 2 weeks after the alternator recall was
announced for 97s.  They had nothing to do with each other, but it was
very fortunate for me.

IME, starters and alternators are 100-200k items.  I would only consider
OEM reman replacements.  Water pumps tend to go 100-200k also, but they
do tend to seep a bit before they die enough to strand you.

If your battery is original it should be replaced.

Dave

> Thanks, do you have an idea when the alternator typically needs to be
> replaced?
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>> Dave
codifus - 04 Mar 2008 15:02 GMT
On Feb 26, 9:40 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@yahooooo.com>
wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@yahooooo.com>
> > wrote:
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>
> Dave

Thanks for the detailed response. If I ever get back into cars again
like I used to be, I may build me what I would term  the best Maxima.
I would start with the 97-99 body, it's the best size, not too big,
not too small, and still the most attractive. Then I'd put the VQ30DE-
K from the 2000-2001 Maxima in it. The 3.0 Is still the smoothest V6,
and the 2000-2001 Maximas got the most highly developed VQ30. Last,
I'd get the 2000-2001 5 speed. I want a rod shifting mechanism, not
the cable shifting vagueness in the newer 6 speeds. I think that part
of the reason that Nissan went to a cable shifter is to hide some of
the harshness of the 3.5s. I know that some Maxima.org people have put
3.5s in their 4th gens. Those must be freaking monsters. But in the
long term I would think that the car is not as smooth as before and
gets worse gas mileage. Anyhow, I don't really desire a 13 second 4
door sports car. It would be nice, but not essential, just reasonable
fast, and smooth.

Or maybe I'll just buy a G35 S 6-speed:)

Just my 2 cents.

CD
Devils Advocate - 04 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT
>> Hi all,
>> I drive a '99 Se 5speed that just hit 120K miles. I was wondering what
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>
> Dave

I had to rebuild the tranny in mine max SE.
Forget the exact part, but the part alone was quite expensive. Symptoms were
very similar to a shot clutch.....would go in gear, but not move.

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