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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / March 2004

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What the biggest improvement of the 04 Max SE??

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RON WHITE - 09 Mar 2004 14:43 GMT
From the owner of an 01 SE and an 03 SE, both automatics.
John Golden - 10 Mar 2004 00:19 GMT
> From the owner of an 01 SE and an 03 SE, both automatics.

Well, I guess we can start with the means of attaching the headlights.
Hopefully thats gotten better...

I like the '04, but for that sticker price, I'll take an Infiniti G35 or
Acura TL.

--02 SE 6 speed in NJ
George in NY - 10 Mar 2004 15:12 GMT
Interesting! Own 02 GXL and normally trade for 04 about now but just can't
get excited about 04. I am also curious as to why Nissan offers incentives
on just about everything except Max currently? Not producing that many or
what because they don't seem to be flying off the shelves so to speak.

Noted you mention Acura TL which is something I was just about to look into.
Is this comparable to Max?

Saw the headlight lawsuit by Jersey on news the other night. Jersey suing
for fraud by Nissan to recover insurance losses?

EWARK, March 8 - State consumer regulators and the attorney general sued the
automaker Nissan North America on Monday, charging that the company had
deliberately concealed from owners of some of their Maxima models that its
ultrabright xenon headlamps were a popular target for thieves.

For more than a year, said the state complaint filed in Superior Court in
Somerset County, the company knew that adept thieves could remove the
headlamps in as little as a minute and a half and then resell the xenon
bulbs for up to $250 in a thriving and shady aftermarket. Meanwhile, owners
of the vehicles and their insurance companies were left to pay the cost of
replacing the headlamps.

The New Jersey attorney general, Peter Harvey, said the lawsuit charges that
the company did not notify the owners of the 2002 and 2003 models that were
the most frequent theft targets. Instead, he said, it sent out just two
bulletins to its dealers. One of them, in December 2002, announced the
availability of customized antitheft kits which should be provided "if a
customer requests," at a cost of $175.

Mr. Harvey said that almost a year later, in November 2003, the automaker
sent out a general alert to some 46,000 Maxima owners warning them of the
rash of thefts. The alert also alerted them, he said, to the availability of
free installation of a more generic and less costly "securing bracket" that
could thwart thieves. By that time, Mr. Harvey said, most 2003 models had
been sold and replaced by 2004 models on dealers' lots.

"We allege the company sold cars with these fancy lights but kept consumers
in the dark about how attractive the headlamps were to thieves," said Reni
Erdos, director of the New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs. "Nissan's
actions, or lack thereof, rendered consumers vulnerable to the criminals who
targeted their vehicles.''

George in NY

> > From the owner of an 01 SE and an 03 SE, both automatics.
> >
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> --02 SE 6 speed in NJ
dave stone - 11 Mar 2004 07:13 GMT
> Interesting! Own 02 GXL and normally trade for 04 about now but just can't
> get excited about 04. I am also curious as to why Nissan offers incentives
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> Noted you mention Acura TL which is something I was just about to look into.
> Is this comparable to Max?

The 04 TL was redesigned this year and is a nice car. It reminds me of where
the Maxima was at when it was redesigned for the 95 model year. If they've
fixed the transmission problems that seemed to plague the last generation
TL's it should be worth a look. I really don't like the look of the 04
Maximas but maybe my opinion will change down the road. JMO
Don - 11 Mar 2004 00:40 GMT
Some of the changes
4 wheel independent suspension
cornering lights
5speed auto with slapshift mode or 6 speed manual
Stability control and enhanced braking system
18" wheels
Rad styling (if you like it)

> > From the owner of an 01 SE and an 03 SE, both automatics.
> >
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> --02 SE 6 speed in NJ
Pat@Boston.Harbor - 12 Mar 2004 01:52 GMT
>Some of the changes
>4 wheel independent suspension
>cornering lights

These are things the 3rd gen had that I miss big time on my 5th gen.
I like everything about the 04 except for its looks.

<being nostalgic again>
 
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