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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / March 2004over to Acura sad but necessary
I have enjoyed checking in on board through the years and have found it to always be a useful and informative forum. Alas could not bring myself to do my normal 2 year trade Max to Max. I could have learned to accept 04 Maxima exterior design but the interior, parden the rhyme, was inferior. In 2000 I tried Avalon XLS and found myself in 2002 longing for Max again and went back. This time I went Acura TL, very different from Maxima, that I already feel though thanks to NY snows have little driving time yet. If Nissan had designed an interior and dash like the TL has I would have been the a happy camper but alas they did not. I probably will not return in 06 but one never knows does one. Enjoy, drive em if ya got em! Thanks for all the great info during the years! George in NY Yikes!! TL's are overpriced, ugly and cheap-looking from some angles, need $850 sets of tires, have a tiny trunk and uncomfortable rear seats. Very nice interiors though, so if it floats your boat, it sounds like you can afford it. But, I bought a 2004 Accord EX V6 three weeks ago. Essentially the same car as the TL for 2/3 the money and 1.9% interest. And simply better in many ways. Unlike the "MSRP, please" attitude at Acura ($33,500), I picked up the Accord for $24,300 +TTL. Did I mention it sees 60 in 7 seconds and does it on regular gas..... The Accord suspension is actually firm, it just needs better tires than OEM Michelin/Bridgestone. In '96 I was willing to pay an extra $5K for the I30t over the Maxima solely due to the styling, but I was NOT willing to pay an extra $10K for the TL over the Accord, and pay much more for gas and tires on top of that. But, fear not, I kept my I30t as a daily beater. Sixty mile commute a day. Fun, fun, but it rides so roughly my wife basically refuses to get in it. JM >Yikes!! TL's are overpriced, ugly and cheap-looking from some angles, >need $850 sets of tires, have a tiny trunk and uncomfortable rear [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >JM You can get TL tires for $118 each off Tirerack.com > You can get TL tires for $118 each off Tirerack.com Yeah, with shipping & mounting maybe $600. I recall I was pricing the plus-sized tires the dealer had installed on custom alloys, which came to $850 at Tirerack. Of course, the dealer seemed to have this size on every TL on their lot. I do like the driving characteristics of the TL, it is not entirely dissimilar to the I30t, although the TL feels like a significantly heavier car (it isn't much, maybe 200 lbs). But I'm also entirely happy with the Accord's feel. The Accord has less power steering boost than the TL, and feels sort of like my 1990 RS Integra (which was less boosted than the LS and GS models to emphasize a "sporty" feel). As Niss Tech observed, it only matters that the car makes you happy. JM . . . . . > I do like the driving characteristics of the TL, it is not entirely > dissimilar to the I30t, although the TL feels like a significantly > heavier car (it isn't much, maybe 200 lbs). . . . . > JM Your "feel" is accurate. The TL weighs more like 300-350 lbs more than your previous I30t. An 04 TL with a 6 speed and without Navi, the lightest version of that car, weighs in at a somewhat portly 3482 lbs. If you have an automatic and navi, tack on at least 100 lbs more. Your previous I30t weighed in the neighborhood of 3200 lbs. My assumption is that the I30t compares to the 95-99 Maxima, its vehicular twin. CD > . . . . . > > I do like the driving characteristics of the TL, it is not entirely [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CD 1996 I30t's come in at about 3300 lbs., which is a tad heavier than it's "twin", the Maxima SE. With longer overhangs past the wheels, and an extra 100 pounds of soundproofing, I30's do weigh a bit more. And are a bit slower. JM >> You can get TL tires for $118 each off Tirerack.com > >Yeah, with shipping & mounting maybe $600. I recall I was pricing the >plus-sized tires the dealer had installed on custom alloys, which came >to $850 at Tirerack. Of course, the dealer seemed to have this size >on every TL on their lot. 4 tires at $118 = 472, plus ~$35 shipping = @507 + mount @ ~$45 = 552. Add $80 to the bottom line total if you opted for the 18 inch wheels. Its still a lot less than $850 and not out of line with tire prices for cars of similar size. I almost never buy original equipment tires because you can almost always get a better value in another tire. Actually I just realized you can get tires cheaper than I indicated. I was not viewing the whole list sorted by price. You could do about $100 better than what I quoted if you had the plus size tires. JM, I looked at and test drove the Accord EX V6 because I had the impression that it was quite similar to TL. After checking both out and driving both I found TL to be far different in drive and feel. The Accord is a nice car and certainly they are trying to give them away right now. Salesman started me at invoice 24,200. Called next day knocked off another 500. Sales Manager called next day with " good news " but I didn't even get to what it was since I already had the TL home. Yes I could have easily gotten the Accord EX but it just wasn't anywhere near the same car to my thinking. I did get 1500 off sticker anyway so yes much more than Accord deal but I can live with it. Good luck with your EX V6, enjoy it! George in NY - always a tender spot for the Max > Yikes!! TL's are overpriced, ugly and cheap-looking from some angles, > need $850 sets of tires, have a tiny trunk and uncomfortable rear [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > JM jeez, listen to these people, If the car makes YOU happy that's all that counts. Hey, congrats on your new purchase. I hope it gives you many years of good service. > I have enjoyed checking in on board through the years and have found it to > always be a useful and informative forum. Alas could not bring myself to do [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > George in NY Thanks Niss Tech. George in NY > jeez, listen to these people, If the car makes YOU happy that's all that > counts. > > Hey, congrats on your new purchase. > > I hope it gives you many years of good service. |
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