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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Maxima / May 2004

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MIL Light - dealer can't find anything wrong with car!

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Rochelle - 15 May 2004 03:06 GMT
Hi - this is a great group. It's my first time here.

I have a 1995 GLE, ~124,000 miles.  Original owner, no trouble with
the car until recently.  In the last 8 weeks, injectors 2 & 5 failed
and I had them replaced with no probles.  The failures were signalled
by rough running and the MIL light.  I pulled the codes from the unit
under the center dashboard and the codes told what the problem was
diagnosed to be.

Early last week, the MIL came on again, but the car ran great. I
pulled the codes again and got 3-4 (knock sensor) and 3-2 (EGR system
hi/low flow). I took it to the dealer to have it checked out and they
got the EGR code but not the knock code. They looked at the EGR system
and exhaust system at least, and found nothing wrong.

After a day & 1/2 of checking the car, they still couldn't find
anything.  They reset the light & said that they thought it was just a
fluke and probably wouldn't recur.  After I drove 328 miles in
numerous key cycles, the light came back on.  It's sending only the
EGR code now. The car is running just great, and if not for the light,
it wouldn't appear that anything is wrong. I'm taking it back to the
dealer on Monday again for a 2nd look.

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here? I looked up the
EGR code in a index I found at Maxima.org, and it appears to cover a
lot of ground.  But the dealer's techs just aren't finding anything
wrong with the car.  The two times this error code/light have occurred
it has been on the 2nd or 3rd trip after a fillup.  Gas cap is tight
and dealer said it was holding pressure well.  I haven't changed the
gas I'm using either (Shell Premium). I'm just trying to get some
different ideas here.

Help!

Thanks!
Rochelle
Richard Tomkins - 15 May 2004 03:08 GMT
Same year, but a GXE.

Just came up with the same codes. Same Symptoms. My dealer did the same
thing first time, looked around and then reset the light and said to watch
it. It came on a second time. Same codes as first time, Knock, EGR and
Transmission Control Unit communication.

Made an appointment and the technician went past the EGR, and to the control
solenoid for the EGR. Replaced that and all is well. The solenoid can become
an intermittent problem, the EGR is the failure code, but checks out good.
Takes an experienced or smart technician to look beyond the code and use
imagination I guess.

I don't understand why the US dealers have such a time working on these
cars. The horror stories I read here. I have been to two different dealers
here in Ottawa now and although it costs more to get the work done there,
they know what they are doing.

rtt

> Hi - this is a great group. It's my first time here.
>
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> Thanks!
> Rochelle
Harry Balls - 15 May 2004 16:03 GMT
Have someone take a look at the hose attached to the bottom of the BPT
valve. If the hose is cracked the EGR system will not work and the light
will be set.

> Hi - this is a great group. It's my first time here.
>
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> Thanks!
> Rochelle
Monte - 18 May 2004 03:09 GMT
> I pulled the codes again and got 3-4 (knock sensor) and 3-2 (EGR system
>hi/low flow). I took it to the dealer to have it checked out and they
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>numerous key cycles, the light came back on.  It's sending only the
>EGR code now. The car is running just great,

The EGR is probably has low flow on the small vacuum control line from the BPT
valve.  The knock sensor code is probably a phantom and not real.  By itself it
won't set off the MIL, but other problems can induce the KS code to appear.
 
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