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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Z Cars / May 2004

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Premium or regular?

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John Sheahan - 26 Apr 2004 14:39 GMT
I have a 1995 300ZX and I have been putting Premium in it since I bought it,
but since gas prices have spiked big time, I was wondering if it would be
okay to put some regular unleaded in it or even mid-grade??

John
Levance - 27 Apr 2004 00:25 GMT
Only if you want to replace the engine.  1990-1995 300ZX N/A has 10.5 to 1
compression ratio which dictates the use of good gas.  Read the manual about
doing this, it has many precautions about using regular fuel.  You can get
away with it for a little while until you smoke a piston.

-LJ
> I have a 1995 300ZX and I have been putting Premium in it since I bought it,
> but since gas prices have spiked big time, I was wondering if it would be
> okay to put some regular unleaded in it or even mid-grade??
>
> John
Steve T - 27 Apr 2004 02:03 GMT
> I have a 1995 300ZX and I have been putting Premium in it since I bought
> it, but since gas prices have spiked big time, I was wondering if it would
> be okay to put some regular unleaded in it or even mid-grade??

Bad idea. You bought a hypo car with high compression. Using regular gas is
asking for damaged rod bearings, rings, pistons etc. Also you'll lose MPG
so the savings aren't as great as you think.

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Hidenori HoRi - 03 May 2004 05:22 GMT
> I have a 1995 300ZX and I have been putting Premium in it since I bought it,
> but since gas prices have spiked big time, I was wondering if it would be
> okay to put some regular unleaded in it or even mid-grade??

I use Regular gas almost 1 year with my 93' 300ZX NA.
There is nothing problem but the hp is lower than using Premium gas.

And, I heard that the Z can fit Regular gas because the computer
will re-calculate for low octan.  Of course nobody recomend to
use Regular with Z.

But I understand the gas is too expencive now.... :(
That's why I use Regular now.....

Sorry my Z!!
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Peter Hill - 03 May 2004 19:00 GMT
> > I have a 1995 300ZX and I have been putting Premium in it since I bought it,
> > but since gas prices have spiked big time, I was wondering if it would be
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>Sorry my Z!!
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Too expensive?
Try £4/gall in the UK!  OK so it is full size UK gallon so that's near
£3.33/US gall or $5.89/US gallon.

If you can't afford the gas you can't afford the car - sell it someone
who can.

The ECCS detects low grade gas by the knock sensor detecting the start
of detonation (very bad).  Every time you run it, it starts off on the
high octane map, hears a few knocks that are killing your engine and
then it switches to the low octane fuel and ignition maps which retard
the timing to reduce power.  As retarded timing causes the engine to
run hot it adds lots of fuel to cool it.

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Hidenori HoRi - 03 May 2004 20:21 GMT
> Too expensive?
> Try ?4/gall in the UK!  OK so it is full size UK gallon so that's near
> ?3.33/US gall or $5.89/US gallon.

US$2.40/galon now (in USA) around my home.

> If you can't afford the gas you can't afford the car - sell it someone
> who can.

Yeah.... Actually I sold my Z today.
I'm very sad but it's better for my Z.
I couldn't feed good meal to my Z. :(

> The ECCS detects low grade gas by the knock sensor detecting the start
> of detonation (very bad).  Every time you run it, it starts off on the
> high octane map, hears a few knocks that are killing your engine and
> then it switches to the low octane fuel and ignition maps which retard
> the timing to reduce power.  As retarded timing causes the engine to
> run hot it adds lots of fuel to cool it.

I see. And I agree your message.
Actually I had some knocks between 1500 to 2000 rps.
My Z was telling me that was very bad meal.

But, actually Japanese mechanic(I'm Japanese) said, that's not very bad.
But you can't get max power with your Z.
Of course they don't recommend to feed Regular gas. But the Z can
adjust for Regular gas mode into computer. I was hopping(?) them,
so that's why I did.

And, of course I don't recommend to feed Regular gas to all of Z.
If you really love your Z. ;)
Or as you said, you should take over your Z to someone like me...

Thanks.  And the Z is forever!!
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Steve T - 04 May 2004 01:02 GMT
> But, actually Japanese mechanic(I'm Japanese) said, that's not very bad.

He's wrong..
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Hidenori HoRi - 04 May 2004 01:41 GMT
> > But, actually Japanese mechanic(I'm Japanese) said, that's not very bad.
>
> He's wrong..

oops....

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Brian Hickey - 09 May 2004 03:12 GMT
My 1994 Z, manual calls for 91 Octane. When the price of gas goes up I
mix 1/2 tank of 89 Octane with 1/2 tank of 93 Octane to get near the
spec. Saves a few $s.

> > I have a 1995 300ZX and I have been putting Premium in it since I bought it,
> > but since gas prices have spiked big time, I was wondering if it would be
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>Sorry my Z!!
>Hide
 
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