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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Z Cars / March 2005

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'91 300zx won't start

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300 Zx - 09 Feb 2005 12:55 GMT
alternator went out on it last week. I tested it by taking the + battery
cable off & it shut right off. The battery has been recharged, & while I
was at it, I also changed the plugs. I've checked al of the connections
I  took apart,  but they are al fine. It turns over just fine, but will
not start. I've tried turning the ignition off & on repeatedly to
repressive the fuel system. I sounds like it wants to start, but then...
doesn't. What am I missing?

Z
Steve T - 10 Feb 2005 08:13 GMT
> alternator went out on it last week. I tested it by taking the + battery
> cable off & it shut right off.

Actually that "test" will KILL almost any internally regulated alternator.
That was from the days of mechanical external regulators.

> The battery has been recharged, & while I
> was at it, I also changed the plugs.

Bosch platinums?

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Tobias Weingartner - 10 Feb 2005 09:00 GMT
> > The battery has been recharged, & while I
> > was at it, I also changed the plugs.
>
> Bosch platinums?

Please don't do that.  The VG30DE(TT) engine is rather picky
about the plugs that it runs on.  Use the stuff recommended
by the service manual.

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300 Zx - 10 Feb 2005 14:58 GMT
It was running on bosch platinum +4, but has since been changed to NGK.

So, what you recommend I do  now?

Z
Peter Hill - 10 Feb 2005 17:37 GMT
>It was running on bosch platinum +4, but has since been changed to NGK.
>
> So, what you recommend I do  now?

Check all fuses.  Should be two lots one in car, one in engine bay.
Some in engine bay fuse box are in plastic cases with clear top lids.
Not likely but check fusible links on battery connection.

Air - check idle and extra air systems are clean and clear.  Though if
it ran before it shouldn't be a problem.

Spark - take coil packs off and plugs out, put plugs in coil packs,
rest plugs on cambox and crank engine - look for sparks.  If you have
none at all check fuses, check connections, if they are OK you may
have killed the ignition amplifier.  If it's just one or two swap coil
packs and plugs around, if the lack of spark moves with the coil pack
it's the coil pack, if it moves with the plug it's the plug (not going
to happen with NGK), if it stays put it's ignition amp or connection
or wiring loom.

Extract ECU and get check codes.  When these older ECU's say a system
is bad it's not always the sensor - that can be way out of calibration
and not cause a check code.  They only detect major failure modes like
open/short circuit or lack of power/earth that gives no or max signal.
So it's often a fuse or poor earth, poor connection or break in loom.

Fuel - if it starts, runs for a few seconds and then dies on a shot of
easy start (ether) in the air filter then it's not getting any fuel.
Check fuses. Check fuel pressure.  Listen for clicks from injectors
when turned over - need a length of dowel or plastic rod to use as a
sounding rod between injector body and ear.
Steve T - 11 Feb 2005 06:52 GMT
>> > The battery has been recharged, & while I
>> > was at it, I also changed the plugs.
>>
>> Bosch platinums?
>
> Please don't do that.  

That's what I meant, I was guessing he installed them...
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Big G - 11 Feb 2005 23:30 GMT
Question to the original poster

Does the radio and or clock work?

I heard a story from a friend that was doing electrical work to the vehicle.
He disconnected the battery, did the work,  then he reconnected the battery
in the wrong order.  The car would not start, the radio and clock did not
work either.  The only fix was to disconnect the battery and reconnect it in
the proper order.  What order that is I do not know.  Try the negative lead
first.

-LJ

> >> > The battery has been recharged, & while I
> >> > was at it, I also changed the plugs.
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>
> That's what I meant, I was guessing he installed them...
Peter Hill - 12 Feb 2005 08:36 GMT
>Question to the original poster
>
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>the proper order.  What order that is I do not know.  Try the negative lead
>first.

For safety should take the earth (negative) off first and put it on
last.  That way it's not possible to short the spanner being using on
positive terminal to earth on any bodywork.
300 Zx - 12 Feb 2005 14:23 GMT
Everything electrical inside the car works just fine. There is a Kicker
600 watt amp, a 10 disc changer, & in-dash dvd player that all power up
& work just as they should. All displays work fine. I turned them all
off so as to not drain the battery further when trying to start it.

  When it wouldn't start initially, I changed the plugs. I also checked
the mass air sensor, the crank position sensor, & all the other things I
could think of.

Z
Jay hidy - 10 Mar 2005 20:48 GMT
When my '90TT quit starting after 12 years of perfection, I found
many of the connectors under the hood were corroded. Especially the
ones to and from the transistor module on the front of the block.
But, in the end it was the connector to the crank angle sensor. It
is sort of hidden under one of the intercooler hoses

Jay

>Everything electrical inside the car works just fine. There is a Kicker
>600 watt amp, a 10 disc changer, & in-dash dvd player that all power up
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>
>Z
 
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