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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Z Cars / June 2005

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Roger Wagner - 29 May 2005 10:57 GMT
Hi there fellow zedders!

I have been contemplating changing the air filter on my '91 z32 300zx Non
turbo for a low cost power increase.

After doing some research, I'm still unsure about which way to go.

Steve T mentioned that "oiled" air filters clog up the air flow meter, so
that rules K&N out.

Because the air box contains 2 filters, it makes it twice as expensive as
normal to replace the standard filters.

Someone mentioned to me that Pod filters cause the engine to act like a dog
at low revs, which is where I spend most of my time.

So that leaves me with what I have at the moment!

I was thinking about installing a cheap(AU$30), replaceable, "dry" pod
filter.

Can anyone give me some more info about which air filter gives the best
performance results without costing an arm and a leg?
Does anyone know a good store/company in Australia?
Steve T - 29 May 2005 23:28 GMT
> Hi there fellow zedders!
>
> I have been contemplating changing the air filter on my '91 z32 300zx Non
> turbo for a low cost power increase.

Not likely to happen.. You think they would leave 20HP or even 10 on the
table in the air filter housing and then would use variable valve timing to
gain it back?

> After doing some research, I'm still unsure about which way to go.
>
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> Because the air box contains 2 filters, it makes it twice as expensive as
> normal to replace the standard filters.

Look at the filter area and then think about how retrictive it could
possibly be compared to the hole in the AF meter. Here's a clue, the twin
turbo can make over 400HP still using this same filter setup.

> Someone mentioned to me that Pod filters cause the engine to act like a
> dog at low revs, which is where I spend most of my time.
>
> So that leaves me with what I have at the moment!

Exactly. IMHO you're better off spending some money on the other end of the
engine (exhaust system)  and/or a ECU tune upgrade.

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Peter Hill - 30 May 2005 08:52 GMT
>Look at the filter area and then think about how retrictive it could
>possibly be compared to the hole in the AF meter. Here's a clue, the twin
>turbo can make over 400HP still using this same filter setup.

2nd clue the AFM can flow enough air for 500bhp.
Steve T - 30 May 2005 18:44 GMT
>>Look at the filter area and then think about how retrictive it could
>>possibly be compared to the hole in the AF meter. Here's a clue, the twin
>>turbo can make over 400HP still using this same filter setup.
>
> 2nd clue the AFM can flow enough air for 500bhp.


And why would a NA need to change either one!?  :-)

The last clue is the factory turbo exhaust which is better flowing than the
NA one can barely support the stock HP rating and is the FIRST thing that
needs to be replaced...

People forget than each car has it's own bottle neck. For the early 280EFI
cars, it's the intake manifold, for the late Z's it's the exhaust system.
You can't just assume what works on somebodies honda will work on your Z
car.
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Me - 01 Jun 2005 02:24 GMT
> Hi there fellow zedders!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Steve T mentioned that "oiled" air filters clog up the air flow meter, so
> that rules K&N out.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with Steve on this one.  The K & N  or
JWT filter will be fine for your car, and is probably the best route to
take.  If you follow the directions, there is no danger to your car, and
there will be some performance enhancement.  There are thousand upon
thousands of Z owners that have switched to this type of filter without
problems.  Just don't over oil the filter.

Dustin
Steve T - 02 Jun 2005 07:09 GMT
>> Hi there fellow zedders!
>>
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> JWT filter will be fine for your car, and is probably the best route to
> take.  

Just curious, did you dyno test your car before and after or are you taking
the "salesman's" word that it does anything measurable for performance? I
really think most people read the hype, hear the intake noise and then
"feel" the power... Money is much better spent on the exhaust system.
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Me - 03 Jun 2005 03:14 GMT
>>> Hi there fellow zedders!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> really think most people read the hype, hear the intake noise and then
> "feel" the power... Money is much better spent on the exhaust system.

I didn't take a salesman's word.  I'm no mechanic, but I'm hardly a novice
when it comes to the Z32.  The JWT filter on my car was installed before I
purchased it, but I would have upgraded anyway.  I don't disagree with your
statement about the exhaust system, but the $90 for a JWT intake is worth
the money, in my opinion.  Ideally, the installation of a JWT intake should
happen in conjunction with a less restrictive exhaust system, but if he's
only interested in changing his filter right now, I'd recommend that he
purchase the JWT.

Dustin
 
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