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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Z Cars / September 2003Tank Dropped (Update)
WEll its dropped (starts cursing the long bolts that hold the front of the tank on). We opened it up,a nd removed the floater. PRetty covered in rust, which confirmed our suspiciouns that the tank was rusty. We arecurrently (accordint to what the manual says) using a degreaser and water and letting it sit for a while, (ok not sit, the water is constantly flowing for the next 30 min) WE removed hte pump as well (seems to tiny of a thing to cost 200 plus bucks) and use da degreaser on the intake side. nasty particles of black came out. Any suggestions? WE thing we got it cleaned out now, and hope we don't have to get a new one. You may want to at least look into pricing a new tank. I haven't had to buy one for my Z, but a new tank for my old Jeep was $60. It was well worth it to know that it was clean inside. And I was also able to properly coat the outside in rubberized undercoating. Also, if it's not fixed quite right, would it be worth the price of a new gas tank to do it again?  SignatureMichael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 Nicodemus Telrenner (nicodemus@nospamsorry.zianet.com) wrote on Wednesday 03 September 2003 08:15 pm: > WEll its dropped (starts cursing the long bolts that hold the front of the > tank on). We opened it up,a nd removed the floater. PRetty covered in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > came out. Any suggestions? WE thing we got it cleaned out now, and hope > we don't have to get a new one. Actually, that was one of our questions. Not jstu the outside, but the inside as well. Is it possible to Rhinocoat the interior of a tank, so even IF water gets in, it will not rust it? > You may want to at least look into pricing a new tank. I haven't had to buy > one for my Z, but a new tank for my old Jeep was $60. It was well worth it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > came out. Any suggestions? WE thing we got it cleaned out now, and hope > > we don't have to get a new one. I personally would avoid putting it on the inside. If some of it breaks loose, it'll wreak havoc on your fuel system. Probably as bad (if not worse) that the rust, as I imagine the Rhino liner stuff is petroleum based. Put a bottle of water absorber in every once in a while instead. SignatureMichael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 Nicodemus Telrenner (nicodemus@nospamsorry.zianet.com) wrote on Thursday 04 September 2003 08:30 pm: > Actually, that was one of our questions. Not jstu the outside, but the > inside as well. Is it possible to Rhinocoat the interior of a tank, so [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > hope >> > we don't have to get a new one. I'm not sure where to find it, but I'm sure they make it just for that reason. To re-line tanks. It's not Rino liner but something similar Randy >I'm not sure where to find it, but I'm sure they make it just for that >reason. To re-line tanks. It's not Rino liner but something similar > >Randy "sloshing solution" used in aircraft tanks. Try your local airstrip. http://www.captain.norton.clara.net/cnn4sec38.html but you do need to be careful in which type you use. http://www.bd-micro.com/sloshing.htm God knows what fuel injection system cleaning stuff has in it. -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! WEllt he tank is rusty. Anyone know what it should cost to get it cleaned and sealed? This is Simon, Nic's other half..... I am still thinking that about any good rust remover or solvent would work, swish the tank out afterwards, and drive the thing. May have to do it again after a couple of years, but by then maybe we will be able to send the thing out and get it done right, or buy a new tank at that time. Any suggestions on a rust remover. We have heard Muriatic Acid, but you have to be real careful to get it nuetralized, and what to do with the waste? Let me know..... -- Kendal R. Emery, MCSE, Network+, A+, MCNGP #19 Systems Administrator Coordinated Home Care kemery@coordinatedhomecare.me.com remove me to email to me > WEllt he tank is rusty. Anyone know what it should cost to get it cleaned > and sealed? >This is Simon, Nic's other half..... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Let me know..... Swill with phosphoric acid. Turns the rust to a stable black scale. I don't recommend Coke, use something like Jenolite or other liquid (ie not jelly) commercial rust remover. Washed Pea gravel or 1/4" ball bearings - you can count them in, shake it all about and then count them out. Wash lose stuff out with water, dry by swilling with methanol (race) fuel grade 99%+ pure, not the watered down stuff - find a drag strip / speedway and ask around. -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! I'm not sure what year your Z is, I have a 76 280 and the tank started leaking a few years ago, a new tank was over 500 bucks, I wound up taking the tank to a radiator shop and they cleaned it and then lined it. I think it cost around 125 bucks. One of the problems with my tank is it has an intank filter that is behind some baffles and you can't get to it. It became clogged once and starved the fuel pump. Also here is a tank repair place you can ship your gas tank to them and they will fix it good as new. It is a good site to read up on how a tank should be done to repair it properly. http://www.gas-tank.com/ > This is Simon, Nic's other half..... > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > WEllt he tank is rusty. Anyone know what it should cost to get it cleaned > > and sealed? We found a product at a local janitor supply shop called Regal Supply and Chemcial. I used to work for them, and remembered they had a product called Lavar, that you could drop a penny in, and it would come out looking brand new. I called the president (gee, nice to have connections) and talked to him for a few minutes, and we both agreed that this would be a great product to use here. The upsides are, it is not caustic, or acid. And we don't have to worry about waste, it can go down the toilet if need be. So we bought a gallon, and put it in the tank, and then filled the tank with water, and let it sit overnight. You would not be believe the difference. We are still rinsing the loose stuff out, but the rust came off very well, and looks so much better. -- Kendal R. Emery, MCSE, Network+, A+, MCNGP #19 Systems Administrator Coordinated Home Care kemery@coordinatedhomecare.me.com remove me to email to me > I'm not sure what year your Z is, I have a 76 280 and the tank started leaking > a few years ago, a new tank was over 500 bucks, I wound up taking the tank to [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > WEllt he tank is rusty. Anyone know what it should cost to get it cleaned > > > and sealed? I'm guessing that junk that is coming out is what used to be the steel used to make the tank. The tanks hold a little bit of pressure when the gas cap is on to prevent hydrocarbon emissions. What I am saying is if the tank did not leak it is apt to leak now or very soon. > We found a product at a local janitor supply shop called Regal Supply and > Chemcial. I used to work for them, and remembered they had a product called [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > cleaned > > > > and sealed? Maybe, maybe not, but if we can get another year out of this tank, then we are better off. -- Kendal R. Emery, MCSE, Network+, A+, MCNGP #19 Systems Administrator Coordinated Home Care kemery@coordinatedhomecare.me.com remove me to email to me > I'm guessing that junk that is coming out is what used to be the steel used to > make the tank. The tanks hold a little bit of pressure when the gas cap is on [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > cleaned > > > > > and sealed? And how perceptive you are (as i will post in a moment) IT DID leak....Frig.... > I'm guessing that junk that is coming out is what used to be the steel used to > make the tank. The tanks hold a little bit of pressure when the gas cap is on [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > cleaned > > > > > and sealed? Well, we got the tank cleaned pressed and folded.... no wait, that was the laundry We got the tank cleaned, and re-installed. Started filling it with gas, and low and behold, the stupid thing was apparantly rusted worse than we thought, cause it has a leak with a steady stream about a 16th inch in diameter. We went and bought a gas tank repair kit, and will prbably do that tonight when we get home. -- Kendal R. Emery, MCSE, Network+, A+, MCNGP #19 Systems Administrator Coordinated Home Care kemery@coordinatedhomecare.me.com remove me to email to me > WEllt he tank is rusty. Anyone know what it should cost to get it cleaned > and sealed? |
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